Mancini Poll

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Stay or Go

Mancini should stay because I want stability
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Mancini should stay because I want Mancini
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Mancini should go
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Total votes : 162

Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Mark Garrett » Sun May 12, 2013 10:54 am

zabbadabbado wrote:I hope the rumours circulating about barcelona considering pellegrini are true, we don't want or need him at city he has won fuck all.I am going to laugh my bollocks off when robero mancini gets the vote of confidence that he thoroughly deserves for the success he has given us.only a lunatic would want to replace the most succesful manager we have had in years, 37, 000 fans sung roberto mancini name loudly and clearly, a ringing endorsement if ever there was one.the 2 spanish pricks should be sacked before they can do any more damage, they fucked up our season, and our cup final, yet robero mancini gets the blame for it all, truly shocking.


This. The 2 spanish cunts are to blame for the undermining of Mancini on Friday and throwing our preparation into chaos before our biggest game of the season. As a result the whole day wss ruinef and we get a car crash performance because everything is up in the air.

Pelligrini is taking over but we can forget winning the league already for next season. Only Jose and Ancelotti have won it in their first season. Do not expect the man with no previous success anywhere to win us so much as a raffle. The 2 spanish pricks need sacking, they should be keeping Mancini not ripping it up. Appalling decision and one that has cost us the cup final and league next season.
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2009-10 League..................Pld 21 - W 11 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 40 - GA 18 - Pts 38...Finished 5th
2010-11 League..................Pld 38 - W 21 - D 8 - L 9 - GF 60 - GA 33 - Pts 71...Finished 3rd..FA Cup Winners
2011-12 League..................Pld 38 - W 28 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 93 - GA 29 - Pts 89...Finished 1st..League Champions
2012-13 League..................Pld 36 - W 22 - D 9 - L 5 - GF 62 - GA 31 - Pts 75...Finished 2nd

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European Cups record.........Pld 28 - W 13 - D 7 - L 8 - GF 43 - GA 29

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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Superbia » Sun May 12, 2013 10:57 am

Mancini is a poor manager get over it
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Waz » Sun May 12, 2013 11:08 am

Above everything else, we do need stability at the club.

In essence, we're suffering a bit because of the success we've had, particularly last season with an epic league title win. It is of course a natural reaction to be right royally peed off after yesterday and that's understandable, but at the same time we're just as bad as the media if we want the knives out now.

Let's not forget that we hadn't won a single trophy in 35 years before the FA Cup win in 2011 and the league the year after, and we're likely to finish 2nd in the table this season, so it's not a complete disaster that the media would have us all believe and rant on about.

The next season will be the true acid test of Mancini and us as fans to see if we can rise together to get over moments like yesterday and actually see what we can do to win things back next season. The expectancy will of course be raised once again in that "he has to win something or be sacked" but that with that sort of pressure on, you'd wonder how anyone would perform if they were in the manager's shoes right now.

What we don't want is a revolving door and rumours of being replaced by a manager who isn't a proven winner is a massive concern.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun May 12, 2013 11:09 am

Superbia wrote:Mancini is a poor manager get over it


I honestly have no idea when you started following City but after watching the complete fucking clowns like Ball, Coppell, Hughes, Clark etc running the show one time or another, I would never make retarded comment like that. Did he fail this season? Yeah. Did I expect more from players this year? Yeah. Did I expect us to win the cup? Yeah. But I would never ever call feller who has won us league title and FA cup 'poor manager'.

I also find the people expecting Pellegrini hilarious. They have no idea what sort of third rate manager we are talking about.
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby kennyboy » Sun May 12, 2013 11:12 am

The poll speak for it self. I think he will be replaced.
What is the tactic when your team is chasing a goal and you take of Carlos and replace him with Jack Rodwell?
I don't get it.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Mark Garrett » Sun May 12, 2013 11:18 am

Superbia wrote:Mancini is a poor manager get over it


You are entitled to your opinion but unfortunately for you, you are wrong. Yes he needs to improve in Europe and his success at Lazio Inter and City suuggests otherwise. The man is and will always be a legend at City for what he has done and if you think replacing him with someone not as good is a sensible move then you are as fucking stupid ss the 2 spanish executives we appointed who messed up the cup final.
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2009-10 League..................Pld 21 - W 11 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 40 - GA 18 - Pts 38...Finished 5th
2010-11 League..................Pld 38 - W 21 - D 8 - L 9 - GF 60 - GA 33 - Pts 71...Finished 3rd..FA Cup Winners
2011-12 League..................Pld 38 - W 28 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 93 - GA 29 - Pts 89...Finished 1st..League Champions
2012-13 League..................Pld 36 - W 22 - D 9 - L 5 - GF 62 - GA 31 - Pts 75...Finished 2nd

Domestic Cups record.........Pld 30 - W 18 - D 4 - L 8 - GF 63 - GA 36
European Cups record.........Pld 28 - W 13 - D 7 - L 8 - GF 43 - GA 29

Overall record at City......Pld 191 - W 113 - D 38 - L 40 - GF 361 - GA 176


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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Mark Garrett » Sun May 12, 2013 11:27 am

kennyboy wrote:The poll speak for it self. I think he will be replaced.
What is the tactic when your team is chasing a goal and you take of Carlos and replace him with Jack Rodwell?
I don't get it.


Correct he will be gone and that was apparent on Friday.

The substitution was designed to push Yaya further forward, barry sittting with Rodwell box to box.
Toss up between tevex or aguero going off as neither were effective
MANCINI Record at City

2009-10 League..................Pld 21 - W 11 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 40 - GA 18 - Pts 38...Finished 5th
2010-11 League..................Pld 38 - W 21 - D 8 - L 9 - GF 60 - GA 33 - Pts 71...Finished 3rd..FA Cup Winners
2011-12 League..................Pld 38 - W 28 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 93 - GA 29 - Pts 89...Finished 1st..League Champions
2012-13 League..................Pld 36 - W 22 - D 9 - L 5 - GF 62 - GA 31 - Pts 75...Finished 2nd

Domestic Cups record.........Pld 30 - W 18 - D 4 - L 8 - GF 63 - GA 36
European Cups record.........Pld 28 - W 13 - D 7 - L 8 - GF 43 - GA 29

Overall record at City......Pld 191 - W 113 - D 38 - L 40 - GF 361 - GA 176


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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun May 12, 2013 11:53 am

He's a good manager but he's not the right man for us.
I do appreciate what he's done but hes run his course and it's time for him to go.
There have been very little positive signs that we will turn it around next season.
The squad we have is the squad that won the league, it's by and large the squad that won 5-1 at Spurs and 6-1 at OT.
We can blame missed transfers all we want but Mancini has not got the best out of our payers. He's spent too long focusing on what we don't have rather than what we do.
As others have said every time we come up against an organised team with a game plan we struggle. So many examples and we never have a plan B.

He's not a shit manager but we need someone better suited who will get us playing quick, purposeful attacking football. Something we've been lacking this season.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Risby » Sun May 12, 2013 11:59 am

I'm torn.

On one hand, we have a manager who has brought immediate success to our club and has won us the trophies we have been craving for so so long. For that reason he may deserve another chance due to what he has achieved domestically so far.
On the other hand, this word stability worries me. We know we don't want to keep swapping and changing out manager, but at the same time I don't want us to end up like Arsenal. Also, if he causes tension between him and the players, then our team will never play to their ability unless it's a huge game when the manager doesn't need to raise spirits.
Right now I'm only thinking domestically because yesterday showed we are not ready to face the worlds best as we can't beat one of the lowest ranked teams in the PL.
A tough decision for those in charge, and no matter what decision is made, disappointment will be huge.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Clowncrete » Sun May 12, 2013 12:47 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Superbia wrote:Mancini is a poor manager get over it


I honestly have no idea when you started following City but after watching the complete fucking clowns like Ball, Coppell, Hughes, Clark etc running the show one time or another, I would never make retarded comment like that. Did he fail this season? Yeah. Did I expect more from players this year? Yeah. Did I expect us to win the cup? Yeah. But I would never ever call feller who has won us league title and FA cup 'poor manager'.

I also find the people expecting Pellegrini hilarious. They have no idea what sort of third rate manager we are talking about.


I wouldn't call Pellegrini third rate. He may not be the best manager but third rate?
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby kennyboy » Sun May 12, 2013 1:10 pm

Mark Garrett wrote:
kennyboy wrote:The poll speak for it self. I think he will be replaced.
What is the tactic when your team is chasing a goal and you take of Carlos and replace him with Jack Rodwell?
I don't get it.


Correct he will be gone and that was apparent on Friday.

The substitution was designed to push Yaya further forward, barry sittting with Rodwell box to box.
Toss up between tevex or aguero going off as neither were effective


Well that make sense, yaya was he even on the pitch? Makes me start question like what does he actually do?
Anyway its beyond me if players cant be motivated for a FA Cup final, not a chance we been playing like that
against Scum or Chelsea. Mancini allso is to blame here.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Sun May 12, 2013 1:16 pm

I wonder if the poll should really be. Do you want a manager in charge of the club or do you want two Spanish directors in charge of the club and have a coach to implement their 4-3-3 way of playing. I suppose anything is better than 3-5-2 though but I prefer a manager rather than a committee.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby FA cup winners 2006 » Sun May 12, 2013 1:24 pm

I want Mancini gone.

There is a huge number of managers who i think would be an upgrade on Mancini but lets say it is Pellegrini. He will play a similar style to what we play now but will get a lot more out of Aguero, Silva and Nasri. Mancini trains the team at a slow mundane pace then expects them to turn into a slick fast moving flowing team on the saturday. All we need is a coach who can train and prepare our players with the same intensity and pace that they will be used to in a match and we will be on a winner.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Lee_R » Sun May 12, 2013 1:40 pm

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:I want Mancini gone.

There is a huge number of managers who i think would be an upgrade on Mancini but lets say it is Pellegrini. He will play a similar style to what we play now but will get a lot more out of Aguero, Silva and Nasri. Mancini trains the team at a slow mundane pace then expects them to turn into a slick fast moving flowing team on the saturday. All we need is a coach who can train and prepare our players with the same intensity and pace that they will be used to in a match and we will be on a winner.


Yes this seems to be the idea, he also seems to have a plan b
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Blue Blood » Sun May 12, 2013 2:59 pm

As much as I like and respect Mancini for what he has done, he has to go now.

Our style has become so slow and one dimensional, if we stick with Mancini, no matter the players we buy in the summer, nothing will change.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sun May 12, 2013 3:44 pm

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ashton287 wrote:There are only 2 managers i think that could come to city in a weeks time and win the league next season. One of them is taggart and the other is mourinho.

I don't want either at city and i would rather stick with a frustrating mancini than wait another 2 years for any improvement.

Personally i don't think mancini is the problem anyway. That team last night won the league last season barring nastasic. Most of them though have stopped playing since that day last may.

Hart. Kompany. Yaya. Silva. Aguero. None of them have done their jobs this season because they are all guaranteed a start and none of them have any competition in the squad.


But its Mancinis job to motivate them? Why are so many people missing this point? Its his job! And if he cant do it other managers can.. thats the cut throat world of football management.

I mean what is his job, to pick the team? 99% of fans could pick the best team out of that lot. Tactics? Hes been outsmarted soo many times this season and infact this 3 at the back wtf how many games did we lose or draw due to messing around with that? Hes come up short mate. Transfers? Our owners dont want a manager that wants to keep spending millions when we already have talent at the club that he cant get the best out of. So whats the best thing to do? Spend millions on players he might row with or fail to get performing or bring in a coach that can make the current team play?.. Its a simple solution.

This isnt about Mancini bashing.. most of us admire the bloke. Its about looking at our squad and saying wow.. not in a million years did I ever think we'd have all these great players AND wow not in a million years did I think we'd be so inept with those players in an FA cup final.

You know.. fans at most other clubs are actually quite shellshocked at how embarrassingly we performed yesterday.


I agree with much of what you say Lee. I think he's made too many mistakes and strange decisions this season and it all comes from his stubbornness and maybe arrogance. The decision to take off Tevez yesterday sort of summarises the way he has behaved all season. His handling of Balo this season was disgraceful and cost us a few points when he was let go without a replacement being lined up. I remember a few matches when we were down to Tevez and Dzeko as our only strikers and none of them were in great form to top it off. I think a big portion of the fans have lost confidence in him as this poll shows, so just imagine how the players feel ! Will always be grateful to him for winning us the FA Cup and the League but I think it's time for him to leave and from all indications it seems the owners and Club management feel the same. I'm not sure though that I would bring in Pelligrini. Someone with PL experience would have been my choice if even for a transitional period.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Dameerto » Sun May 12, 2013 3:46 pm

I'm at the point where I think it would be better for City to go next season with Kidd/Platt as caretakers if needs be than to continue under Mancini - maybe I'm being disloyal after his achievements but I want what's best for the club. Apologies if that offends anyone, it's my opinion.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby Blue Blood » Sun May 12, 2013 5:21 pm

Dameerto wrote:I'm at the point where I think it would be better for City to go next season with Kidd/Platt as caretakers if needs be than to continue under Mancini - maybe I'm being disloyal after his achievements but I want what's best for the club. Apologies if that offends anyone, it's my opinion.


I think we all want what is best for the club, that is what is leading us to consider a future without Mancini.

Personally I just can not picture Mancini capitalising on Fergies retirement and building our dynasty, especially not after watching so many abject displays in the past few months and culminating in yesterdays disaster.

I love Mancini for what he has done but imo we need to make the right change now and pour the pressure on our rivals and make them crumble.

Now is the time to assert ourselves as the country's premier team and I just can't see Bobby and this brand of football doing that.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby ross.mcfc » Sun May 12, 2013 5:36 pm

I stated last week that regardless of the result yesterday with United and Chelsea changing managers we would be foolish to change managers. Of course, I wrote that with no thought that we were actually going to lose and field a side that was tactically inept or even worse, lacked fight. Most City fans will accept that we lost to a better side and congratulate Wigan. It hurts like hell to support a side that lacked fight in a major final.

I will not bag Mancini for the Tevez sub. When I saw Rodwell warming up I called it to my mates that we were taking a forward off. This has been a tactic that has worked on quite a few occasions. We had two strikers who hardly got a kick of the ball so it makes sense to take one off and add a midfielder to ensure we start winning the midfield battle and perhaps create a chance or two for our one remaining striker. It has worked in the past (Wigan away this season spring to mind) but alas it failed yesterday. My complaint would be that is should have been Aguero that made way.

I am not a big fan of Mancini, never have been. If he goes I will wish him well and thank him for the memories but I want him to stay for purely continuity reasons. We have a big chance of winning the league next season with the changes at Chelsea and United but need to hit the ground running. I believe yesterday’s performance will be the rocket up the ass that some of the players who have been living off last year’s performances required.

I do think he is a goner though; there may be more to this story than we know. He was very close to joining Monaco or Russia after winning the league for us so he should stop complaining if we have been speaking to other managers. The investment at Monaco at the moment means perhaps he decided he was going there at the end of the season anyway. The silence from the club since Friday’s rumors speaks volumes.
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Re: Mancini Poll

Postby roblues » Sun May 12, 2013 5:42 pm

ross.mcfc wrote: I believe yesterday’s performance will be the rocket up the ass that some of the players who have been living off last year’s performances required.


I worry that the opposite could also happen - the one or two players constantly linked with other teams could potentially get out citing the cup final loss as a sign that things were going wrong. I voted for Mancini to stay on the basis of stability but after this weekend it will be near impossible to be stable under Mancini without huge public backing from the chairman, owner and whoever else seems to think they count in the upper echelons of the club.
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