new york city

[JonnyAsh]

can anyone recommend good places for cream pies and milk shakes?

oh and this looks like it is really happening

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -100m.html

maybe it's a euphemism, in which case, I hear that certain parts of Chelsea, that's the NY, not UK version, may be what you are looking for...not from personal experience I may add!!

[Dameerto]

Who will own the new club - Mansour or City? Not sure what the rules are regarding revenue vs pay in MLS, but if there's no equivalent of FFP, they could be a wholly owned subsidiary of City (and therefore still an asset for Mansour).

The cost of creating the club wouldn't impact on FFP, but any revenue would come in the same way as from a burger van. Even without buying players off MCFC, we could get their TV income, shirt sales etc.

So any of you who drive on the wrong side of the road know what the rules are regarding income and expenditure in the MLS?

I'd wondered this the last time (or rather first time) it came up - if it's owned by City there are some interesting possibilities, pump in enough sponsorship (away from European interference) to guarantee a profit then have that profit go to City as the 'owner'.

[Lev Bronstein]

So if NY City bought Messi for £200mill and sold him to us for 50p, we'd get away with it?

[Blue Since 76]

So if NY City bought Messi for £200mill and sold him to us for 50p, we'd get away with it?

I think that could be seen as not market value etc, considering any other club would pay say £100m. Think it'd be more subtle than that - we could own New York City. They make £50m profit a season from TV, tickets, shirt sales, food, unrelated sponsorship (ie non UAE). That profit goes straight to the parent company, as with any other company.

Seems to be a loophole in the system - wonder if Platini had thought of it? Wonder what PSG has as their loophole? And Chelsea? If we really are about to do this, is this the start of the death of FFP?

[Alioune DVToure]

So if NY City bought Messi for £200mill and sold him to us for 50p, we'd get away with it?

Clubs (franchises) don't own players' registrations in the MLS. The league does. We'd have to agree a price with them.

[DoomMerchant]

more time on the ball and technical ability? This is MLS, not La Liga. What are you watching? The league has improved for sure and i'm encouraged by that as an American, but from a developmental perspective i'd rather have a player in the Championship with a team that focused on playing the ball on the floor than in MLS. Maybe define "youngsters" as a start....i wouldn't want Razak, Suarez, etc....anywhere near MLS.

I disagree entirely.

We need to get our players out of the kick and rush mentality and give them competitive exposure in a place which mirrors the way the first team play. EDS is not the place for that, nor is the championship.

In the US the quality might not be that high, but the facilities are generally top notch, decent pitches and not quite so much of the physical kick and rush stuff you get in the championship.

Assuming the sheikh wants to win in mls, one would imagine there would be some good quality oldies in the side to mentor the younger ones too.

Maybe I have it completely wrong, just a thought

i get what you're saying. But why not just send them to Spain instead? Or Italy? if you want a "less aggressive", more technical league, MLS isn't going to position them to play against the best players in the world.

[Clowncrete]

more time on the ball and technical ability? This is MLS, not La Liga. What are you watching? The league has improved for sure and i'm encouraged by that as an American, but from a developmental perspective i'd rather have a player in the Championship with a team that focused on playing the ball on the floor than in MLS. Maybe define "youngsters" as a start....i wouldn't want Razak, Suarez, etc....anywhere near MLS.

I disagree entirely.

We need to get our players out of the kick and rush mentality and give them competitive exposure in a place which mirrors the way the first team play. EDS is not the place for that, nor is the championship.

In the US the quality might not be that high, but the facilities are generally top notch, decent pitches and not quite so much of the physical kick and rush stuff you get in the championship.

Assuming the sheikh wants to win in mls, one would imagine there would be some good quality oldies in the side to mentor the younger ones too.

Maybe I have it completely wrong, just a thought

i get what you're saying. But why not just send them to Spain instead? Or Italy? if you want a "less aggressive", more technical league, MLS isn't going to position them to play against the best players in the world.

But does the owner have a team in spain? We can send our entire group of youngsters to the New york team and they can play together. That cannot be said for any spanish team unless it is owned by the Sheik.

[MilnersJaw]

can anyone recommend good places for cream pies and milk shakes?

oh and this looks like it is really happening

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -100m.html

read the article and there is some random picture of a girl playing tennis, quality.

[Herb]

This is fantastic news if it comes off as it will not only provide us with improved exposure in north america (advertising income increased / fan base increased / merchandising increased) but it will give us a top table place in the fastest growing football league in the world and allow us better choice of up and coming american players.
Best of all, we can thumb our noses at FFP because our US based club will be well placed pay us to take our players on loan (the loan cap is still at very healthy levels for even the best possible our future developing talent) so none of those subbed wages deals or loan players being benched in favour of someone else's player getting needed game time.

Anyhow, good as it all is let's not get too excited until there's ink on the contracts.

[AG7]

read the article and there is some random picture of a girl playing tennis, quality.

That's probably to highlight the Queens area of Flushing Meadows where the proposed stadium is going to be ... it's right next to where the US Open is held ... thus the picture: read behind the girl, it shows the US Open logo.

[Florida Blue]

can anyone recommend good places for cream pies and milk shakes?

oh and this looks like it is really happening

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -100m.html

[highlight]Very exciting - maybe our youngsters would develop better in a league with more time on the ball and technical ability, but it wouldn't prepare them for stepping up to the first team that's for sure.[/highlight]

The commercial potential though I would imagine is huge. A new club in one of the biggest cities in the world would be an opportunity to pick up fans new to the game, and bring big names to the USA on short term deals maybe for those who have fallen out of favour or returning from injury

Looks like a win win situation for city

more time on the ball and technical ability? This is MLS, not La Liga. What are you watching? The league has improved for sure and i'm encouraged by that as an American, but from a developmental perspective i'd rather have a player in the Championship with a team that focused on playing the ball on the floor than in MLS. Maybe define "youngsters" as a start....i wouldn't want Razak, Suarez, etc....anywhere near MLS.

At this point in time it is irrelevant. There are some really funky loan rules in the MLS (especially when it comes to foreign players - only 152 foreign players allowed in all of MLS or 8 per team) and the MLS has a draft system, it is not like City could populate the New York squad with whomever it wanted.