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by Alex Sapphire » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:54 am
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:In the early 20th century, British workmen had gone to Argentina to build the railways there and a number had stayed and married Argentinian girls, hence such an outcome.
there might have been a few English navvies, but mostly the Brits down there were businessmen, landowners and toffs. It wastreated like it was empire. That's how Argentina came to have two presidents of English descent
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by Alioune DVToure » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:51 am
Alex Sapphire wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:In the early 20th century, British workmen had gone to Argentina to build the railways there and a number had stayed and married Argentinian girls, hence such an outcome.
there might have been a few English navvies, but mostly the Brits down there were businessmen, landowners and toffs. It wastreated like it was empire. That's how Argentina came to have two presidents of English descent
Nothing to do with Welsh settlement in Patagonia, then? (Genuine question, not smug sarcasm).
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by BlueinBosnia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:13 pm
Alioune DVToure wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:In the early 20th century, British workmen had gone to Argentina to build the railways there and a number had stayed and married Argentinian girls, hence such an outcome.
there might have been a few English navvies, but mostly the Brits down there were businessmen, landowners and toffs. It wastreated like it was empire. That's how Argentina came to have two presidents of English descent
Nothing to do with Welsh settlement in Patagonia, then? (Genuine question, not smug sarcasm).
That was about 1,200 settlers, across three villages- a tiny proportion of British migrants to Argentina. At its maximum (ie pre-integration) population, it was only 4,000 people. I think even rugby was introduced by non-Welsh settlers.
What actually makes them interesting is that they kept the Welsh language alive (although before contact was reestablished in the 1950s, fluent Welsh speakers were literally in the tens), and are revered by the modern Welsh Nationalist movement for this, anot their cultural input into Argentina, which was basically zero.
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by Alex Sapphire » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:37 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:In the early 20th century, British workmen had gone to Argentina to build the railways there and a number had stayed and married Argentinian girls, hence such an outcome.
there might have been a few English navvies, but mostly the Brits down there were businessmen, landowners and toffs. It wastreated like it was empire. That's how Argentina came to have two presidents of English descent
Nothing to do with Welsh settlement in Patagonia, then? (Genuine question, not smug sarcasm).
That was about 1,200 settlers, across three villages- a tiny proportion of British migrants to Argentina. At its maximum (ie pre-integration) population, it was only 4,000 people. I think even rugby was introduced by non-Welsh settlers.
What actually makes them interesting is that they kept the Welsh language alive (although before contact was reestablished in the 1950s, fluent Welsh speakers were literally in the tens), and are revered by the modern Welsh Nationalist movement for this, anot their cultural input into Argentina, which was basically zero.
This ^^
and there are now 50,000 who claim to be descended from them (it says here)
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That way when you do criticise him you'll be a mile away.
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by BlueinBosnia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:39 pm
Alex Sapphire wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:In the early 20th century, British workmen had gone to Argentina to build the railways there and a number had stayed and married Argentinian girls, hence such an outcome.
there might have been a few English navvies, but mostly the Brits down there were businessmen, landowners and toffs. It wastreated like it was empire. That's how Argentina came to have two presidents of English descent
Nothing to do with Welsh settlement in Patagonia, then? (Genuine question, not smug sarcasm).
That was about 1,200 settlers, across three villages- a tiny proportion of British migrants to Argentina. At its maximum (ie pre-integration) population, it was only 4,000 people. I think even rugby was introduced by non-Welsh settlers.
What actually makes them interesting is that they kept the Welsh language alive (although before contact was reestablished in the 1950s, fluent Welsh speakers were literally in the tens), and are revered by the modern Welsh Nationalist movement for this, anot their cultural input into Argentina, which was basically zero.
This ^^
and there are now 50,000 who claim to be descended from them (it says here)
Where?
"Ferguson. Žvaka kurac."
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by Alioune DVToure » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:41 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:In the early 20th century, British workmen had gone to Argentina to build the railways there and a number had stayed and married Argentinian girls, hence such an outcome.
there might have been a few English navvies, but mostly the Brits down there were businessmen, landowners and toffs. It wastreated like it was empire. That's how Argentina came to have two presidents of English descent
Nothing to do with Welsh settlement in Patagonia, then? (Genuine question, not smug sarcasm).
That was about 1,200 settlers, across three villages- a tiny proportion of British migrants to Argentina. At its maximum (ie pre-integration) population, it was only 4,000 people. I think even rugby was introduced by non-Welsh settlers.
What actually makes them interesting is that they kept the Welsh language alive (although before contact was reestablished in the 1950s, fluent Welsh speakers were literally in the tens), and are revered by the modern Welsh Nationalist movement for this, anot their cultural input into Argentina, which was basically zero.
This ^^
and [highlight]there are now 50,000 who claim to be descended from them[/highlight] (it says here)
Where?
Here ^^

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by BlueinBosnia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:44 pm
Alioune DVToure wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:Nothing to do with Welsh settlement in Patagonia, then? (Genuine question, not smug sarcasm).
That was about 1,200 settlers, across three villages- a tiny proportion of British migrants to Argentina. At its maximum (ie pre-integration) population, it was only 4,000 people. I think even rugby was introduced by non-Welsh settlers.
What actually makes them interesting is that they kept the Welsh language alive (although before contact was reestablished in the 1950s, fluent Welsh speakers were literally in the tens), and are revered by the modern Welsh Nationalist movement for this, anot their cultural input into Argentina, which was basically zero.
This ^^
and [highlight]there are now 50,000 who claim to be descended from them[/highlight] (it says here)
Where?
Here ^^
There?? ^^
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by Alex Sapphire » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:46 pm
Alioune DVToure wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:In the early 20th century, British workmen had gone to Argentina to build the railways there and a number had stayed and married Argentinian girls, hence such an outcome.
there might have been a few English navvies, but mostly the Brits down there were businessmen, landowners and toffs. It wastreated like it was empire. That's how Argentina came to have two presidents of English descent
That was about 1,200 settlers, across three villages- a tiny proportion of British migrants to Argentina. At its maximum (ie pre-integration) population, it was only 4,000 people. I think even rugby was introduced by non-Welsh settlers.
What actually makes them interesting is that they kept the Welsh language alive (although before contact was reestablished in the 1950s, fluent Welsh speakers were literally in the tens), and are revered by the modern Welsh Nationalist movement for this, anot their cultural input into Argentina, which was basically zero.
This ^^
and [highlight]there are now 50,000 who claim to be descended from them[/highlight] (it says here)
Where?
PatagoniaHere ^^
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by rosbif cuisson 'bleu' » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:17 pm
i was kind of using the names phoenetically,(cris, jo) so if u see my cousin Joe you can tell him it's a girl's name.....btw the bro-in-law
thought using the web was an easy way out, but he's a masochist...
was that picture of 'Alex' the one who went with 'Jordan' or was it someone's facebook picture?
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by rosbif cuisson 'bleu' » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:22 pm
slim, watching footy in France will spoil your tastein names if not in other things.......'chacun a son gout!'
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by Tony P » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:07 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Alex Sapphire wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:
This ^^
and [highlight]there are now 50,000 who claim to be descended from them[/highlight] (it says here)
Where?
Here ^^
There?? ^^

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