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Craig Bellamy banned by Manchester City• Roberto Mancini lays down the law over 'disruptive' forward
• Bellamy expected to train with Cardiff City this week
(40)Tweet this (74)Daniel Taylor guardian.co.uk, Sunday 15 August 2010 22.29 BST Article history
Craig Bellamy has been outraged by the way Manchester City have marginalised him and made his feelings clear to Roberto Mancini. Photograph: Tom Jenkins

Craig Bellamy has been banned from Manchester City and black-listed as one of their players in a show of authority from the club's manager, Roberto Mancini. Bellamy has been told he will not be welcome at City's practice ground when the players resume training tomorrow and ordered to stay away until a deal has been arranged to find him a new club.

It follows several clashes with Mancini and other senior employees over the past few days. Bellamy has been outraged by the way City have marginalised him and has made his feelings clear to the manager and other players. He was told to train with the reserves on Friday but his attitude was perceived to be so "disruptive" the club have told him he is no longer welcome.

An angry Bellamy has returned to Wales to be with his family and is expected to train with Cardiff City tomorrow.

Cardiff have contacted City to ascertain their position and are hoping to capitalise on Bellamy's desire to play for his hometown club by persuading him to take a pay cut on a loan agreement. However, reports of a deal being imminent are premature, with City turning down a request from the Championship club to pay part of Bellamy's £95,000-a-week salary.

City would prefer to sell the 31-year-old but are reluctant to do business with Tottenham Hotspur, confirmed admirers of Bellamy, because they regard Harry Redknapp's team as competitors for the Champions League places. Celtic and Sunderland are interested while Mark Hughes, the former City manager, is trying to sign Bellamy for Fulham plus two more players from his previous club, Roque Santa Cruz and Shay Given.

Several other clubs are understood not to be deterred by the rancorous split and Bellamy's apparent inability to avoid confrontation with authority. Bellamy's CV, including spells at Liverpool, Newcastle United and Blackburn Rovers, has become synonymous with controversy and his eight months under Mancini have been rife with tension and mutual suspicion.

The tone of their relationship was set within Mancini's first weeks as manager when they had an argument about the player wanting an individually tailored training programme.Bellamy was also the subject of an internal investigation into comments in the players' tunnel after Mancini had clashed with David Moyes during the 2-0 home defeat to Everton in March. Someone was overheard shouting something offensive towards Mancini. Bellamy denied it was him and, with noise in the tunnel making it hard to gather evidence, the club decided not to reprimand him.

But Mancini was said to find it "disrespectful and unprofessional" when Bellamy, walking off the pitch after the 1-0 defeat to Tottenham that ended City's hopes of reaching the Champions League, high-fived Redknapp. Then, last week, Bellamy accused Mancini of not speaking to him for six months, an allegation that was strenuously denied. City's directors initially planned to fine Bellamy but instead, on Mancini's recommendation, they have decided to make him persona non grata and effectively wash their hands of him.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Banned from Carrington I hear. He must have really told them what he thinks about the way it's all been handled.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Banned from Carrington I hear. He must have really told them what he thinks about the way it's all been handled.

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Can't see what he's done wrong to be honest. We won't play him or sell him what choice does he have?

Kyle wrote:Everyone is so rediculious. You guys are too busy with the MCFC dick in your mouth that you can't realize that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness. They way he was treated was complete shit, and good on him for telling them his mind. Buisness has been sooooo shady this summer and quite frankly its rather pathetic and i'm getting sick of it fast.

Second divison will straighten him out? What kind of talk is this to someone who clearly plays 100% when given the opportunity. This isn't down to a lack of professionalism from Bellamy, but rather a lack of professionalism for Mancini and Cook.

CitizenYank wrote:I remember the press conference where Mancini was asked why he was dropping Ireland and Bellamy,
some of his first words were, "I am the coach." He then gave off this uncomfortable stare that reminded
me of the press conference where he quit Inter Milan. I have noticed that it one of the few ways to piss
off Mancini is too challenge his authority in the locker room.

They eyes say everything, as they say. And those Roman pupils were ON FIRE.

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I realize he can be a pain in the arse, but I think us efforts for us either deserve a spot or a decent transfer.

kinkylola wrote:i would agree ... it does have the feeling that bellamy tried to go over mancini's head and when mancini found out about this he probably went to the board and said no fucking way is this happening on my watch, I am in charge of the players and that is how it is. Our owners, knowing the correct process of delegation and responsibility, agree with him and allow him to discipline as he sees fit. Mancini has a meeting with bellamy ... sort of a "wtf mate, let's lay it on the table" get together, bellamy spouts some shit, bobby probably showed his temper as well and the outcome is bellamy banished.

niall, if it went down this way, what would your opinion be? I mean apart from saying "it's a shame it didn't work out, he was a legend in the making" I think that is fairly agreeable to all parties. I think bellamy could have been a great player for us. I guess what I'm asking is where do you stand if it's purely a player vs. manager power play?

Kyle wrote:Everyone is so rediculious. You guys are too busy with the MCFC dick in your mouth that you can't realize that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness. They way he was treated was complete shit, and good on him for telling them his mind. Buisness has been sooooo shady this summer and quite frankly its rather pathetic and i'm getting sick of it fast.

Second divison will straighten him out? What kind of talk is this to someone who clearly plays 100% when given the opportunity. This isn't down to a lack of professionalism from Bellamy, but rather a lack of professionalism for Mancini and Cook.

Kyle wrote:Everyone is so rediculious. You guys are too busy with the MCFC dick in your mouth that you can't realize that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness. They way he was treated was complete shit, and good on him for telling them his mind. Buisness has been sooooo shady this summer and quite frankly its rather pathetic and i'm getting sick of it fast.

Second divison will straighten him out? What kind of talk is this to someone who clearly plays 100% when given the opportunity. This isn't down to a lack of professionalism from Bellamy, but rather a lack of professionalism for Mancini and Cook.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Kyle wrote:Everyone is so rediculious. You guys are too busy with the MCFC dick in your mouth that you can't realize that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness. They way he was treated was complete shit, and good on him for telling them his mind. Buisness has been sooooo shady this summer and quite frankly its rather pathetic and i'm getting sick of it fast.

Second divison will straighten him out? What kind of talk is this to someone who clearly plays 100% when given the opportunity. This isn't down to a lack of professionalism from Bellamy, but rather a lack of professionalism for Mancini and Cook.

Yeah. That's kind of why we are here, right? Not because of Bellamy or any other individual player. But because we have MCFC dick in our mouth.

kinkylola wrote:

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Can't see what he's done wrong to be honest. We won't play him or sell him what choice does he have?

You won't read about what he's done wrong because if it came out it would probably be embarrassing for the club and for him personally. He is a grown man, who gives 100% on the field and acts like a child off of it.

Ask anyone at his former clubs and I'm sure they will tell you the same. No one has ever doubted his performance/commitment on the field, so what would you say the reason is that ever club he's been at has decided to wash their hands of him? It's probably because he does nothing wrong right?

Kyle wrote:Everyone is so rediculious. You guys are too busy with the MCFC dick in your mouth that you can't realize that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness. They way he was treated was complete shit, and good on him for telling them his mind. Buisness has been sooooo shady this summer and quite frankly its rather pathetic and i'm getting sick of it fast.

Second divison will straighten him out? What kind of talk is this to someone who clearly plays 100% when given the opportunity. This isn't down to a lack of professionalism from Bellamy, but rather a lack of professionalism for Mancini and Cook.

He's a person, you're right. But I don't support a person, I support a team. And when a player makes it impossible for the team to practice together, or form a bond ... and when the person's very presence undermines the leader of our team, I want him out. I like bellamy as a player (ON the pitch), I like his commitment, and I appreciate what he gave us in the time he was with us. But that doesn't mean I'm going to turn a blind eye towards his shit stirring and the circus that follows him everywhere.

I can't say for sure, I'm not there, but can you see bellamy being anything other than a divisive presence in any locker room? I can't. I'm sure anyone within ear shot knows how he feels about mancini, and if you're in a locker room and you're the manager and there is a twat spouting shit about you constantly, how can you abide having him be a star in your team? You can't. There has to be mutual respect, and I don't think bellamy has ever been capable of that with Mancini.

That about sums it up. Bellamy does not show mancini any respect. Like it or not, mancini is the boss, and it doesn't matter who you are, if you don't respect the boss, you go. I like that personally, and I hope it continues and we have a culture of discipline and respect at the club ... not a culture of players like bellamy and barton who think they are bigger than it all.