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johnpb78 wrote:

9secondlegend wrote:my lad will be gutted if we get rid of stevie ireland. hes only 4 and obssesed with him! are you listening roberto?????

How so?

The boy was only 2 when Stevie had his only good season, and he has been utter wank for three quarters of your son's life. With judgement like that, your lad will be a munich by age 5 - keep an eye on him

ryanmjo wrote:I'm fine with selling him, just not to a top 8 side.

ryanmjo wrote:An ITK guy on the Villa forums claims O'Neill was going to sell us Milner for 15 million, Ireland, Onouha, and Michael Johnson.

Lerner just wanted 30 million though, no players used as makeweights.

ryanmjo wrote:An ITK guy on the Villa forums claims O'Neill was going to sell us Milner for 15 million, Ireland, Onouha, and Michael Johnson.

Lerner just wanted 30 million though, no players used as makeweights.

Beefymcfc wrote:

ryanmjo wrote:I'm fine with selling him, just not to a top 8 side.

I don't want him going to U***d either!

ross.mcfc wrote:Delighted about this if it means we aren’t going through with that deal. It would have been up there with the Eto plus cash for Ibra in terms of the worst transfer ever.

TonyM wrote:Ireland is my favourite player. I realy hope he stays. He's better than a lot of players we are keeping hold of. And he will only be better in a decent team.

I think it's double standards for those who defend this past pre season on the fact that so many decent players were missing ... and then judge players like Ireland and Bellamy wehn they haven't had to play with these great players.

Ireland will be great with Silva and Yaya. If he stays then I will feel like we've had a great close season (sort of like when the deal to send him to Sunderland collapsed years ago and he was fuckin awesome thereafter).

Hopefully Milner will still come to the club. There's room for Milner, Ireland and Bellamy in the squad of 25.

Sister of fu wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Let's hope so. Ireland is better player than Milner so that would've been stupid deal anyway.

Really??? One good season from Ireland in god knows how many makes him better than Milner? Two very different players in my book, but one of them is far more consistent than the other, with that player being Milner.

Erwin Rommel wrote:Ireland is a bit weird, he kills his Grannys, owns a pink car and has a kilometre long Fish Tank. Mancini struggles to manage weird people, so Ireland has to go.

Erwin Rommel wrote:Mancini struggles to manage weird people

ant london wrote:

Erwin Rommel wrote:Mancini struggles to manage weird people

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Sister of fu wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Let's hope so. Ireland is better player than Milner so that would've been stupid deal anyway.

Really??? One good season from Ireland in god knows how many makes him better than Milner? Two very different players in my book, but one of them is far more consistent than the other, with that player being Milner.

Ireland has the skill and talent to be leading playmaker in the league. Milner on the other hand, while more consistent, does not possess skill to take his game to that next level of really really top players.

Personally I'd like to see us try and get full potential out of Ireland rather than waste money on Milner who I couldn't even see in our starting line up for Spurs even if he signed before that. He simply isn't good enough.

Sister of fu wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Sister of fu wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Let's hope so. Ireland is better player than Milner so that would've been stupid deal anyway.

Really??? One good season from Ireland in god knows how many makes him better than Milner? Two very different players in my book, but one of them is far more consistent than the other, with that player being Milner.

Ireland has the skill and talent to be leading playmaker in the league. Milner on the other hand, while more consistent, does not possess skill to take his game to that next level of really really top players.

Personally I'd like to see us try and get full potential out of Ireland rather than waste money on Milner who I couldn't even see in our starting line up for Spurs even if he signed before that. He simply isn't good enough.

I dont doubt he does have the skill but does he have the right mental capibilites to use it, from what i have seen the answer is no. IMO i can not ever see Stevie Ireland being banded in the same bracket as Fabregas, Scholes and Inestias and that IMO is the level of player we want to be aiming for if we want to be challenging the big boys of world football.

Can i ask a question......If we win a major trophy this season will anyone on here be bothered that Stevie Ireland on Craig Bellemy (if they are both sold) were not part of that and will you give them a 2nd thought???
My answer is no as there is no sentiment in football anymore and im past the point of getting attached to bloody football players. To me its all about City and im at the point from a very selfish point of view that i want to see us win something and if that means leaving players on the side of the road then so be it.

Blue2 wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Let's hope so. Ireland is better player than Milner so that would've been stupid deal anyway.

Your are kidding aren't you? Milner is miles better amd way more consistent. Ireland has had one good season in five and the rest of the time he has been shit.

smurfsdabomb wrote:

Blue2 wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Let's hope so. Ireland is better player than Milner so that would've been stupid deal anyway.

Your are kidding aren't you? Milner is miles better amd way more consistent. Ireland has had one good season in five and the rest of the time he has been shit.

Milner better my hole. He was some nobody at Newcastle on the bench behind Duff more often than not until O'Neill turned him into a decent workhouse who had one top season at Villa. Consistent? Sure, consistently average. Ireland may be inconsistent but when its his day he's world class, a level Milner will never touch. Cristiano Ronaldo was exactly the same in his younger days, inconsistent with flashes of brilliance. If a decent coach gets a hold of stevie and nurtures those flashes to become the norm he can be one of the greatest players on the planet as well.

smurfsdabomb wrote:

Blue2 wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Let's hope so. Ireland is better player than Milner so that would've been stupid deal anyway.

Your are kidding aren't you? Milner is miles better amd way more consistent. Ireland has had one good season in five and the rest of the time he has been shit.

Cristiano Ronaldo was exactly the same in his younger days, inconsistent with flashes of brilliance.