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Fact is if goalline tech came in it would expand to other decisions, eventually become part in everything and ultimately ruin the game.

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Moonchesteri wrote:We can only guess whether England had won 1966 world cup if any sort of goal line/video technology had been there.
Quote: "However, a study conducted by the Engineering Department at Oxford University concluded that the ball did not cross the line entirely and that it was 6 cms away from being a goal (Goal-directed Video Metrology)."

In a similar fashion we can only guess whether England would've won 2010 WC.

Imho human errors like this belong to football.

Fine, but then why waste all that money training, evaluating, paying and flying refs around the world. If human error is a required part of the game then there's no problem with poor match officials.

If you welcome dodgy decisions that eliminate the aspect of contest from football then you're giving up the right to ever complain about a referee's decision. That's a different thing from accepting that referees aren't perfect, it's saying that a perfect referee would be to the detriment of the game.

No it's not.

And either way, a perfect mechanical referee - which is what technology would supply - would be detrimental.

They're threatening to look at an area where there is no room for interpretation and that is, by its nature ideally suited for the use of technology.

This would take a tiny amount of time from average games. Negligible compared to other areas. It's hard to see how it would do anything at all to harm people's enjoyment of the game unless the implementation was horribly botched.

How many times do you see them still arguing about whether it was a penalty on match of the day, despite having 4 super slo-mo replays?

Things like the tennis hawkeye wouldn't work, unlss we change the rule so that it's any part touching the line rather than past it. All it would lead to is footballers wanting it for every decision, even throw ins.

Lastly, as a scenario, City are playing the rags in another semi final at eastlands. 0-0 with a minute to go, when shrek thunders one against the bar, onto the goal line and out. City race away and score, putting us in the final. In the middle of the celebrations, the 4th official pops up and points out the rags shot was a goal. We've just gone from 1-0 up to1-0 down and the game is lost. Do you think everyone would think it was fair and go home lightly?

absolutely farcical that FIFA will not remove the potential for error regarding the MOST FUNDAMENTAL PART OF THE GAME. that a ball crossing the goal line is a goal. EPIC FAIL.

Have to agree. Whether or not the ball crosses the line would NOT BE OPEN TO DEBATE with touch line technology. Opinions would be irrelevant. All you would need would be a pair of f...... eyes!!!
This would in fact speed up the play.

Blue Since 76 wrote:How many times do you see them still arguing about whether it was a penalty on match of the day, despite having 4 super slo-mo replays?

Things like the tennis hawkeye wouldn't work, unlss we change the rule so that it's any part touching the line rather than past it. All it would lead to is footballers wanting it for every decision, even throw ins.

Lastly, as a scenario, City are playing the rags in another semi final at eastlands. 0-0 with a minute to go, when shrek thunders one against the bar, onto the goal line and out. City race away and score, putting us in the final. In the middle of the celebrations, the 4th official pops up and points out the rags shot was a goal. We've just gone from 1-0 up to1-0 down and the game is lost. Do you think everyone would think it was fair and go home lightly?

Not really. Measuring the whole of the ball over the whole of the line would be difficult but there's an uber simple (sorry) workaround.

For the purposes of the technology use one ball diameter distance back from the line as the point. If the ball crosses that plane, it's a goal. Works fine for round balls. There'll be a margin for error (say +/- 1cm in very rare cases, but define how that's looked at early and there won't be an issue. Wouldn't be any less accurate than the current system.

Kyle wrote:I don't think it is a good thing at all. It would absolutly change the way football would be played allowing more stoppages and breaks for rest. However, something has to be done and I think putting an official on each goaline would solve most of the official's errors regarding goals, handballs, and penalties and wouldn't take a break in the game to check the video.

There is a simple answer to this, i believe it was Mark Hughes who i first heard mention it.. While technology implemented for everything would ruin the flow of the game, one place where it stops nothing is goal line.. or say extend that to when there is a goal. Play stops anyway and there is a 30 sec break. This is plenty of time for the officials to confirm or deny the goal. The key thing about the technology argument is it mostly about disallowed or allowed goals.. not fouls throwins or any other stuff. Goals change games, goals are the key interest in games and are the key contentious issue.

A plane a ball width behind the goal wouldn't work, as if a player was in the net, it would pick them up too. Most ball across the line issues are when someone has been trying to hook a ball clear. You'd need some sort of chip in the ball or special coating to try and pick it up and I'm not sure technology is there yet.

No need for it, if the silly cunt (linesman) was doing his job properly, he would have been level with the play and have seen the ball was yaards over the line. Just sums up the world cup for me though, it's overhyped. Shit teams, shit officials, shit supporters. Bring on the new season and proper football again.

Always been for technology to be fair I mean most other sports have it I'm sure it can't be hard with the technology we have to install sensors in the ball and the posts. You don;t even need cameras.

Not in favour of technology myself. Once you open that pandoras box then the pressure will come from managers and the press for technology for deciding offsides, penalties and everything else. I'm for the extra officials as they have introduced in the Europa League, they would have seen that goal last night.

Fish111 wrote:Not in favour of technology myself. Once you open that pandoras box then the pressure will come from managers and the press for technology for deciding offsides, penalties and everything else. I'm for the extra officials as they have introduced in the Europa League, they would have seen that goal last night.

Hahaha I actually said that!

Fidel Castro wrote:No need for it, if the silly cunt (linesman) was doing his job properly, he would have been level with the play and have seen the ball was yaards over the line. Just sums up the world cup for me though, it's overhyped. Shit teams, shit officials, shit supporters. Bring on the new season and proper football again.

He was level with the play, not up with the ball which was probably travelling at 70ish mph obviously, but his angle of view should have been perfect but he still didn't see it. A video ref would have spotted it straight away as would he have spotted the offside for Tevez's first goal. The likelihood is that England and Mexico would have still been beaten but at least then we'd all just accept that it was down to not being good enough on the day.

The mere fact that contentious issues are not allowed to be replayed on the big screens at grounds means that they are expecting the guy behind the video replay controls, who is presumably not a qualified referee, to make a split second decision based on video evidence! The guy last night fecked up but had they not shown the first Tevez goal the crowd would've known there was something dodgy about it anyway.

Where's the fuclin issue........

Blue Toy wrote:Any mods around to make this a poll?

Done

I don't think any technology is needed, how about if the linesmen are too busy scratching themselves, FIFA pony up for a couple of more officials and sit one behind each goal. Sorted.

IMO what is ruining the game is these blatently BENT referees / fifa officials.
The game is so blatently bent it isn't even funny.
We need robot referees to stop this crookedness.
We'll never have anything easy to sort it out as there is no way for them to bend the rules to suit them.

All they need to do for goal line tech is what they have in ice hockey to see if the puck crossed the line.
Simple as fuck.

I knew I'd be only one to vote against it.

Thing is, I can understand all the explanations why it should be introduced. They are all very valid. I'm as shocked about this decisions as the next man. HOWEVER, I'm a strong traditionalist as far as football goes. I don't think there's anything wrong with the game. These things are HUMAN ERRORS and that's one of the most beautiful things on the game. Played by humans for humans and refereed by humans. All capable of making errors.

People will go on and on and on about that decision and many more sending offs, offsides etc long after the competition is over. Hell, THAT Danny Tiatto goal STILL bugs me. However, just as Robert Green can make blunder, so can referee.

Also, there's another thing that really makes me love the game and be against these big rule changes. It's the (or should be or once was) same game for everyone. Whether you are slight build kid playing on a hot day in favela, slightly overweight holding midfielder in Finnish lower than low league on late october freezing your bollocks off or Premier League superstar with 50k people signing your name, it's essentially the same game once you step on the pitch. It's a big big appeal for me.

Get it in the sooner the better.

Yes from me,if its over the line for good or worse it should be a goal.