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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Original Dub » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:16 pm

xavi6 wrote:
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xavi6 wrote:We haven't actually beaten a 'big' team in a competitive game since Holland in 2001 and so I'm not sure where this optimism comes from, unless of course we're playing for two draws and a win on away goals.


I can't see us playing so we can go through on the away goals rule. I think that'd be silly.

The optimism for me comes from the fact that we are a really fucking hard team to beat and that gives us a fantastic foundation.

I fancy us to beat them in croker, they're not nearly as organised as the italians IMO. Like I said, I wish we were playing away first, but even if we hold them to a nil all in croker, I'd be confident of drawing in France, be it score or not.


Problem is though we have zero plan B.

Look at our central midfielders. All donkeys for want of a better phrase and if we make a sub in that area it's basically like for like. Can you imagine us breaking down the French if we're a goal down in Paris with ten minutes to go? I can't, and yet we've Andy Reid and Keith Fahey watching from their living room.

If, and when imo, we go behind, whether it's in the first or second leg, I don't see anything to suggest that we can pull it back (barring some massive stroke of luck like the sending off in Italy).


You're looking at it from the opposite side to me... I agree that IF we go behind we aren't very well equipped to stage a comeback... however, you seem to think we'll go behind and that is where I'm wondering why you think we will.

We may well have donkies in midfield, but the individuals in the Ireland team aren't half as important as the 'system'. Trapp lives and dies by this system and if you'd have been told we would be unbeaten in that qualifying group I don't think you would have believed it? Nor would I. So I'll place faith in Trapp because unlike so many of our previous qualifying campaigns, I feel we have gotten better as this one has gone on and we are now brimming with confidence.

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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Slim » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:16 pm

MaseCTID wrote:
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MaseCTID wrote:France are probably on par with England, and England are shite so you've definitely got a chance.


So if France win, then England are better than Ireland?

I like this logic, can't really lose.


Hmmm that all depends on how they win. If it's away goal rule then I would say England are probably better than France then. But if it's a win overall then France are better than Ireland but on par with England. But if Ireland win by scoring in the 94th minute of the second leg then Ireland are better than Brazil. It all depends really. I still think West Germany will do well though.


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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Kyle » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:18 pm

Ireland is through, I mean hell they got Shay!
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby ronk » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:31 pm

Tough draw. But we have a chance anyway.

Really pissed off at the seeding still. It wasn't necessary. It's not like we're not even one of the best set of travelling fans. We sent the 11th most supporters to Germany when we weren't even in the competition.
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby CityGer » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:39 pm

Fucking scandalous. The big nations have already had an advantage through seeding for the groups and now get another advantageous draw, having not been able to capitalise on a previous one. A disgrace.

King of contradicts Platini banging the drum about club finances, dominance of the big clus and wanting football to be a more level playig field.

I hope Ireland fucking smash em.
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:44 pm

Svensational wrote:Republic of Ireland v France
Portugal v Bosnia-Hercegovina
Greece v Ukraine
Russia v Slovenia

Anybody know the South American draw??


gosh those fixtures look rigged. oh, wait. they were. my bad.

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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:07 pm

I enjoyed Shay's comments on the subject when he stated that the Head of UEFA was French so therefore orchestrated it to ensure the best possible chance of getting through.

Was listening to Alex McCliesh on the radio yesterday who said that before they were due to play Italy (?) in a must win game for them, he got a call from a UEFA representative telling him that his team would get nothing from the ref and those 50/50s would go against him. He replied to them something like 'Even at Hampden, no chance'. However, he soon found out that his source was telling the truth and that the ref had definately been briefed on what the outcome of the game would be. This result cost him his job whilst Scotland were realistically cheated out of a finals positon!

Just amazes me how these people get away with it. Seems now that we actually don't give a monkey's and it's a shame they couldn't have done the same for England; but that's another story altogether!
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:45 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I enjoyed Shay's comments on the subject when he stated that the Head of UEFA was French so therefore orchestrated it to ensure the best possible chance of getting through.

Was listening to Alex McCliesh on the radio yesterday who said that before they were due to play Italy (?) in a must win game for them, he got a call from a UEFA representative telling him that his team would get nothing from the ref and those 50/50s would go against him. He replied to them something like 'Even at Hampden, no chance'. However, he soon found out that his source was telling the truth and that the ref had definately been briefed on what the outcome of the game would be. This result cost him his job whilst Scotland were realistically cheated out of a finals positon!

Just amazes me how these people get away with it. Seems now that we actually don't give a monkey's and it's a shame they couldn't have done the same for England; but that's another story altogether!


do you have a link to this McLeish thingy? it sounds so scandalous and i have googled every combination of things looking for a story like it. Sauce?
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby dazlebluefrog » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:12 pm

TO BE READ WITH A FRENCH ACCENT (like in allo allo)
well for a mate of mine " thiz is ze worst draw poss i bol ,he'z ze owner of a pub ear in Valence,France and yes he'z 100% real Irish ,so what does he do? ope for a French win and makes lots of monnie or ope to zee Ireland in africa

right now what do i think ?It's possible for the Irish ,at least i fcuking hope so cause fcuk Domenech our trainer, he's hardly liked by anyone here even the players arn't really that happy with him but recently they've started to play a bit ,danger men are Gourcuff in midfield ,scareface(Ribery )if fit ,up front need to watch out for a new lad Gignac, plays for Toulouse but has scored 4 in last 5 internationals?also Benzema is starting to find he's scoring boots for Real & France while Henry will always be a threat ,the weak link is the goalkeeper Lloris fcuking shit at coming for the ball
to win this i reckon Ireland need a 2 goal lead to bring to Paris with our Shay in goal carnt see France coming back from that as also there will be 1,000's of irish over for it
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby one man army » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:44 pm

hope to see slovenia beating russians. slovenians play entertaining football, they've been very unlucky with slovakians in our group. slovakia play boring crap football, still managed to qualify from the top spot.
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:49 pm

Hope you get through because it will be good too see the Irish support (aswell as Shay ;-) at the World Cup.

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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:13 am

ronk wrote:Tough draw. But we have a chance anyway.

Really pissed off at the seeding still. It wasn't necessary. It's not like we're not even one of the best set of travelling fans. We sent the 11th most supporters to Germany when we weren't even in the competition.


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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:30 pm

France hasn't set the world on fire lately, so I think Ireland has a good chanceto make it through (1-0 home, 0-0 away ?).

Good luck to our Irish forum members.

P.S. Any chance of anyone convincing Stevie and Trappatoni to patch it up. Would love to see Superman in the WC.
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby dazby » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:46 pm

All those crappy European teams getting a chance to play at the world cup. Outrageous.

Bermuda or Canada are more deserving. ;-)
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:45 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I enjoyed Shay's comments on the subject when he stated that the Head of UEFA was French so therefore orchestrated it to ensure the best possible chance of getting through.

Was listening to Alex McCliesh on the radio yesterday who said that before they were due to play Italy (?) in a must win game for them, he got a call from a UEFA representative telling him that his team would get nothing from the ref and those 50/50s would go against him. He replied to them something like 'Even at Hampden, no chance'. However, he soon found out that his source was telling the truth and that the ref had definately been briefed on what the outcome of the game would be. This result cost him his job whilst Scotland were realistically cheated out of a finals positon!

Just amazes me how these people get away with it. Seems now that we actually don't give a monkey's and it's a shame they couldn't have done the same for England; but that's another story altogether!


do you have a link to this McLeish thingy? it sounds so scandalous and i have googled every combination of things looking for a story like it. Sauce?

It was on Talkshite mate, think it Sunday morning as I was driving to Scouseland. No link I'm afraid.
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Slim » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:54 pm

Even if the ROI could choose their opponent, it's been stacked so against them I doubt they could qualify.
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Original Dub » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:46 am

Slim wrote:Even if the ROI could choose their opponent, it's been stacked so against them I doubt they could qualify.


No mate, I think if we'd gotten Greece we'd have done them.
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Blue in the face » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:12 pm

Dubaimancityfan wrote:France hasn't set the world on fire lately, so I think Ireland has a good chanceto make it through (1-0 home, 0-0 away ?).

Good luck to our Irish forum members.

P.S. Any chance of anyone convincing Stevie and Trappatoni to patch it up. Would love to see Superman in the WC.


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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Alex Sapphire » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:49 am

Looks like France will be without Ribery, which cant do your chances any harm
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Re: So Rep of Ireland play France!

Postby Twobob » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:08 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 320374.stm

Yup just read this - Fingers crossed!

Still fuming with the crooked bastards but to be fair I think we'd have taken Greece too lightly and they're no pushovers, I'm pissed off being knocked out by bloody Russia so glad that wont happen again and I think we'd struggle to break down a lesser team.

France will have to come at us and will be expected to win - as long as our sleapy defence can keep on its toes and we dont let them score they should be easier for us to attack against...

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