pellegrini

[gillie]

Just a word on Pellegrini he has won the league in every country he has managed except Spain where he guided Real Madrid to a then record points total of 96 and only finished 2nd behind Barcelona.He also took little Villareal to the CL semi-final not to mention this season where with better refereeing decisions he would have done the same with Malaga.So all in all not a bad record for a nobody.

[Nigels Tackle]

Just a word on Pellegrini he has won the league in every country he has managed except Spain where he guided Real Madrid to a then record points total of 96 and only finished 2nd behind Barcelona.He also took little Villareal to the CL semi-final not to mention this season where with better refereeing decisions he would have done the same with Malaga.So all in all not a bad record for a nobody.

everyone i have heard speak about him says that wherever he has been he gets the best out of the resources he has to work with

if that continues at city, my goodness, we are in for something seriously special

oh, and it would seem nailed on that he'll bring isco with him.

[Bleed_Blue]

Wtf is with this :

"I categorically deny that I am the new Manchester City coach, nothing has been signed and no agreement reached," Pellegrini told the club's official website.

What does this mean, this is killing me now. Whose gonna be the coach ?

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Wtf is with this :

"I categorically deny that I am the new Manchester City coach, nothing has been signed and no agreement reached," Pellegrini told the club's official website.

What does this mean, this is killing me now. Whose gonna be the coach ?

Story is Barcelona want Pellegrini and leaked our interest in him to cause all this bollocks and get him to Camp Nou. Make of that what you will.

[Bleed_Blue]

Story is Barcelona want Pellegrini and leaked our interest in him to cause all this bollocks and get him to Camp Nou. Make of that what you will.

Sounds plausible, the leak was not from pellagrini/city so it might be those Bastards(Barcads). They have been trying to undermine us from January, from when they started fearing Guariola will come to us they started accusing us of stealing Barca staff, now this.

[sheblue]

Wtf is with this :

"I categorically deny that I am the new Manchester City coach, nothing has been signed and no agreement reached," Pellegrini told the club's official website.

What does this mean, this is killing me now. Whose gonna be the coach ?

playing with words, "nothing has been signed", doesnt mean anything at this stage, and i wouldnt believe a word of it now.....

[ashton287]

Wtf is with this :

"I categorically deny that I am the new Manchester City coach, nothing has been signed and no agreement reached," Pellegrini told the club's official website.

What does this mean, this is killing me now. Whose gonna be the coach ?

What he really said was.

"i deny here and now being the new manager of Manchester city.

I have not signed an agreement with anyone, not with manchester city, not with roma, not with napoli, not with psg, not with any of the clubs who've been mentioned".

[DoomMerchant]

"I can't get anything out of an orchestra if I have the 10 best guitarists but I don't have a pianist or a drummer"

- Manuel Pellegrini on his time at Real Madrid

Glenn Branca.

[Dameerto]

Wtf is with this :

"I categorically deny that I am the new Manchester City coach, nothing has been signed and no agreement reached," Pellegrini told the club's official website.

What does this mean, this is killing me now. Whose gonna be the coach ?

It means almost nothing - he could be factually correct whilst his agent is still discussing terms with another club.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

the club runs by bunch of clowns, Kalddoon is a joker.

Pellegrini has flop written all over him. Can't wait

Ridiculous comment.
Bobby is not losing his job because of the results (although they have not helped).
He is losing his job because of his repeated criticism of the board over last summers missed signings, his public criticism of his players (Hart, Nasri and Kompany for starters), his stubborness in sticking by Ballotelli, his determination to stick with this 3 at the back formation but more than anything else he does not fit into the way the new management want to work. They want to buy the players and have the manager work with what they provide.
Bobby would never accept that. Pellegrini is more used to working that way.
Fans are slating Pellegrini because he is not a name. He will not excite the press, he will not sell papers - why? Because he will just get on with the job. They say he is understated but through that he gets respect.
I think bobby has lost respect from players and board (not fans) and that is why he is going. The results dont help but they are not the main reason.

I agree with whoever said Pellegrini will flop, and I disagree with you that Pellegrini is not a "name". I mean the guy has managed god damned Submarino Amarillo who was just about everyone's second team while back and he was also manager of Real..... this guy is a household name for sure. However I actually agree with you that should Mancini get sack it's first and foremost because he doesn't fit the new Manchester City organization. They indeed are aiming for proper Director of Football system were some other people run assembling team part and they have some guy who is basically a head coach rather than manager in traditional sense. It's the same system as in Barcelona. Mancini would never suit that.

Funny bit is of course that when Real were giving the same system a go they brought Pellegrini in and soon he was goner moaning that he didn't get the right kind of players.

That's basically why I've never like the whole director of football system. All the people upstairs have jobs for life whereas managers come and go all the time and are used as scapegoats whenever things go wrong. That's the system we are using from now and basically have been using for a while now with Marwood. Some of our own supporters don't get it though.

[Cocacolajojo1]

That's basically why I've never like the whole director of football system. All the people upstairs have jobs for life whereas managers come and go all the time and are used as scapegoats whenever things go wrong. That's the system we are using from now and basically have been using for a while now with Marwood. Some of our own supporters don't get it though.

But the system calls for a middle layer of people doesn't it, like in Lyon. A group of people including the manager who makes the decisions together and then report to the chairman of the club. If on the other hand the chairman actually started deciding stuff and makes himself part of the initial decision making process and this a possible culprit when it comes to transfer evaluations, then the system is perverted and not really a director of football system any more.

Basically, if a director of football system isn't set up properly it holds the same possibilities for idiocy as letting the manager make all the decisions. But if you get a sporting director like the one in Napoli (which I think came to them from Genoa or Sampdoria), in Seville or the decision making group in Lyon during their prime, they you got a good thing going. Might as well throw in Palermo in that equation as well.

Having a sporting director means that you have to evaluate the sporting director You're assuming they won't. How can you be so sure of that?

[Hazy2]

That's basically why I've never like the whole director of football system. All the people upstairs have jobs for life whereas managers come and go all the time and are used as scapegoats whenever things go wrong. That's the system we are using from now and basically have been using for a while now with Marwood. Some of our own supporters don't get it though.

But the system calls for a middle layer of people doesn't it, like in Lyon. A group of people including the manager who makes the decisions together and then report to the chairman of the club. If on the other hand the chairman actually started deciding stuff and makes himself part of the initial decision making process and this a possible culprit when it comes to transfer evaluations, then the system is perverted and not really a director of football system any more.

Basically, if a director of football system isn't set up properly it holds the same possibilities for idiocy as letting the manager make all the decisions. But if you get a sporting director like the one in Napoli (which I think came to them from Genoa or Sampdoria), in Seville or the decision making group in Lyon during their prime, they you got a good thing going. Might as well throw in Palermo in that equation as well.

Having a sporting director means that you have to evaluate the sporting director You're assuming they won't. How can you be so sure of that?

As we stand imho Berigistain is faced with Bobby, chucking him out of his office with a flea in his ear tables up-turned and stapler launched at him.... Berigistain has always called the shots at Barca when player purchase was concerned. Bob, was never gonna be on the same page, This has been coming. 1st RM said we need to act better and quicker than last season. 2nd "He said they are serious people and know what we need" 3 They have never said a word in response, but were caught having Dinner with a guy in Madrid, who happens to be the agent for Pelli or Isco. Silence is deadly..

[Cocacolajojo1]

That's basically why I've never like the whole director of football system. All the people upstairs have jobs for life whereas managers come and go all the time and are used as scapegoats whenever things go wrong. That's the system we are using from now and basically have been using for a while now with Marwood. Some of our own supporters don't get it though.

But the system calls for a middle layer of people doesn't it, like in Lyon. A group of people including the manager who makes the decisions together and then report to the chairman of the club. If on the other hand the chairman actually started deciding stuff and makes himself part of the initial decision making process and this a possible culprit when it comes to transfer evaluations, then the system is perverted and not really a director of football system any more.

Basically, if a director of football system isn't set up properly it holds the same possibilities for idiocy as letting the manager make all the decisions. But if you get a sporting director like the one in Napoli (which I think came to them from Genoa or Sampdoria), in Seville or the decision making group in Lyon during their prime, they you got a good thing going. Might as well throw in Palermo in that equation as well.

Having a sporting director means that you have to evaluate the sporting director You're assuming they won't. How can you be so sure of that?

As we stand imho Berigistain is faced with Bobby, chucking him out of his office with a flea in his ear tables up-turned and stapler launched at him.... Berigistain has always called the shots at Barca when player purchase was concerned. Bob, was never gonna be on the same page, This has been coming. 1st RM said we need to act better and quicker than last season. 2nd "He said they are serious people and know what we need" 3 They have never said a word in response, but were caught having Dinner with a guy in Madrid, who happens to be the agent for Pelli or Isco. Silence is deadly..

Yeah of course, to be able to have a sporting director in place you need to have good communications and trust between the manager at the bottom and the board at the top. Obviously trust hasn't been a common occurence in our board room since the Swales days, an these things tend to remain despite changes in ownerships and changes in personnel.

You deffo need people who are not so much authoritarian at the top for this system to work. I'm not sure we've got this here. In a club like Barcelona you have the supporters as a possible check of balance when the board starts behaving in a non-purposeful way. We don't really have that, unless Khaldoons have spies or something placed in the club's infrastructure.

[Hazy2]

That's basically why I've never like the whole director of football system. All the people upstairs have jobs for life whereas managers come and go all the time and are used as scapegoats whenever things go wrong. That's the system we are using from now and basically have been using for a while now with Marwood. Some of our own supporters don't get it though.

But the system calls for a middle layer of people doesn't it, like in Lyon. A group of people including the manager who makes the decisions together and then report to the chairman of the club. If on the other hand the chairman actually started deciding stuff and makes himself part of the initial decision making process and this a possible culprit when it comes to transfer evaluations, then the system is perverted and not really a director of football system any more.

Basically, if a director of football system isn't set up properly it holds the same possibilities for idiocy as letting the manager make all the decisions. But if you get a sporting director like the one in Napoli (which I think came to them from Genoa or Sampdoria), in Seville or the decision making group in Lyon during their prime, they you got a good thing going. Might as well throw in Palermo in that equation as well.

Having a sporting director means that you have to evaluate the sporting director You're assuming they won't. How can you be so sure of that?

As we stand imho Berigistain is faced with Bobby, chucking him out of his office with a flea in his ear tables up-turned and stapler launched at him.... Berigistain has always called the shots at Barca when player purchase was concerned. Bob, was never gonna be on the same page, This has been coming. 1st RM said we need to act better and quicker than last season. 2nd "He said they are serious people and know what we need" 3 They have never said a word in response, but were caught having Dinner with a guy in Madrid, who happens to be the agent for Pelli or Isco. Silence is deadly..

Yeah of course, to be able to have a sporting director in place you need to have good communications and trust between the manager at the bottom and the board at the top. Obviously trust hasn't been a common occurence in our board room since the Swales days, an these things tend to remain despite changes in ownerships and changes in personnel.

You deffo need people who are not so much authoritarian at the top for this system to work. I'm not sure we've got this here. In a club like Barcelona you have the supporters as a possible check of balance when the board starts behaving in a non-purposeful way. We don't really have that, unless Khaldoons have spies or something placed in the club's infrastructure.

I do think and have said so on lots of threads, Bobby is loon, I think it is possibly as simple as I have tried and I have tried and Bergi has said to Soriano, you try, because this sonofabitch is going to have to go unless he shapes us to I am his boss and I want players xyz and he coaches them. The passion he has shown the honesty in lambasting Hart for Madrid and the rags defeats were in fact 100% right it is just a case of players not liking the truth. Manager always cop it one way or another.

[Twobob]

Sounds like a foreign Moyes to me, won fuck all but the media love him for what he's done on a 'small' budget, works well with average/mediocre players failed at a big club (Future of Moyes).

[ross.mcfc]

Sounds like a foreign Moyes to me, won fuck all but the media love him for what he's done on a 'small' budget, works well with average/mediocre players failed at a big club (Future of Moyes).

Last time I checked Moyes has not taken average/mediocre sides to the quarter and semi finals of the CL. His achievements with Villareal in the Champions league is the stuff of legends.

I repeat, I do not want Mancini sacked but the idea that Pellegrini is some unknown quantity who could not manage in the Premiership is utterly mad. There is life outside English football.

[zuricity]

Sounds like a foreign Moyes to me, won fuck all but the media love him for what he's done on a 'small' budget, works well with average/mediocre players failed at a big club (Future of Moyes).

ah finally some sense !

i love the fact that moyes is going to the theatre of debt, probably means he'll be more often in Manc and any time i see his wrinkly face in manc, i'm going to wind him up ...

[Twobob]

Last time I checked Moyes has not taken average/mediocre sides to the quarter and semi finals of the CL. His achievements with Villareal in the Champions league is the stuff of legends.

I repeat, I do not want Mancini sacked but the idea that Pellegrini is some unknown quantity who could not manage in the Premiership is utterly mad. There is life outside English football.

Cross-breed Twitchy-Moyes then, sounds sexy

[zuricity]

Cross-breed Twitchy-Moyes then, sounds sexy

I sincerely hope both have been snipped.Can you imagine wrinkly, ginger twitching kids running around salford ?

[Blue Oli]

Ginger kids running round Salford - sort of reminds me of another forum poster........