What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Wooders » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:52 pm

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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:06 am

HeyMark wrote:
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Dubaimancityfan wrote:Very interesting article. Who would've thought that Big Sam is a football intellectual !


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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:14 am

My favourite: 'Cujo has the raw ferocity of a Baboon, along with an adorably idiotic expression that makes you think he didn't mean it. Like Joey Barton.'
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby freshie » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:39 pm

Fuck all so far this season - can't tackle or shoot - his passing is hit and miss
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Lee_R » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:05 am

freshie wrote:Fuck all so far this season - can't tackle or shoot - his passing is hit and miss


Maybe he needs to be 'rested' for a few games.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Kladze » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:23 am

Yaya scored the goal which took us to a cup final, then followed up by scoring the goal which won us that cup (our first trophy for several generations). That should give him legendary status.

There is no way he should be the subject of a CONTINUING thread criticising him.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:44 am

freshie wrote:Fuck all so far this season - can't tackle or shoot - his passing is hit and miss


99 successful passes from 108 against Fulham would suggest he's a tad better than hit and miss.

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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby stommy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:59 am

Yaya is the engine in the midfield, class player, indispensable for us, but there is one little thing, he's getting tired and looses concentration after 70mins
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Wooders » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:01 am

Have to agree his fitness seems to be his biggest issue
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:07 am

Wooders wrote:Have to agree his fitness seems to be his biggest issue


Don't agree.If his fitness was a problem Mancini surely wouldnt pick him for every game and pretty well keep him on the pitch for the full game most times as well.Or is Mancini wrong?

Unless you are referring to mental tiredness but even then, is Mancini missing this? All I see with Yaya is a quality player who occasionally gives the impression of having nothing left after one of his surges but then moments later will be fully at it again. His immediate recovery when doing this can be non existent but he leaves the team to cover him.Other times his lack of a sprint start makes him look knackered but I think it's just that he isn't great over 5 yards or so.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:49 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Wooders wrote:Have to agree his fitness seems to be his biggest issue


Don't agree.If his fitness was a problem Mancini surely wouldnt pick him for every game and pretty well keep him on the pitch for the full game most times as well.Or is Mancini wrong?

Unless you are referring to mental tiredness but even then, is Mancini missing this? All I see with Yaya is a quality player who occasionally gives the impression of having nothing left after one of his surges but then moments later will be fully at it again. His immediate recovery when doing this can be non existent but he leaves the team to cover him.Other times his lack of a sprint start makes him look knackered but I think it's just that he isn't great over 5 yards or so.


I've just watched him in detail yesterday v Fulham & he's either unfit, can't be arsed or has no peripheral vision as he's right there in the thick of our midfield jogging around whilst Fulham players run past him with or without the ball, taking up dangerous positions goal side of him, or behind him in a clear goalscoring position, waitiung for a pass which he is failing to position himself to stop; just jogging in little circles using the absolute minimum of effort. You could give him a chair to sit on & our defending wouldn't suffer as he's contribututing nothing. This isn't after a sprint, it's after a ten minute half arsed jogging session. Barry in contrast is constantly covering gaps, cutting off angles, picking up runners. Yaya isn't.

He's good at passing imo, strong, intelligent, skillful, good at intercepting the ball if it's close by him & bloody useless as a defensive mid in a 2 man system. That's why Bob doidn't play him as one last season. My prediction: we can get away with him v some lesser teams & if our attack plays brilliantly but if we play him as one of two v Utd, unless Dzeko & Aguero score a bucketfull, we'll get truly fucking thrashed because they will run straight through us.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Kladze » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:58 am

It was around about this time last season that he first came in for some criticism, then he started to pick up.

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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:06 am

Kladze wrote:It was around about this time last season that he first came in for some criticism, then he started to pick up.

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It's when he has to play a too many games; he's not fit enough to keep playing to the same levels, everyone starts to notice & then Bob starts talking about us being tired. He improved after we got knocked out of Europe by Dynamo, where he looked like Vieira's grandad.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:07 am

I tend to agree Ted, the defensive side of his game leaves a lot to be desired. However what he brings to our midfield is invaluable, he is almost impossible to dispossess, he is unstoppable on them surging runs, and his passing and vision in general is better than any of our other "holding midfielders".

In fact out of the four players we have in that position you can take characteristics from each to make the perfect midfielder. Yaya's possession and passing game, De Jong's tackling ability, Barry's brain and Milner's energy.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:20 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I tend to agree Ted, the defensive side of his game leaves a lot to be desired. However what he brings to our midfield is invaluable, he is almost impossible to dispossess, he is unstoppable on them surging runs, and his passing and vision in general is better than any of our other "holding midfielders".

In fact out of the four players we have in that position you can take characteristics from each to make the perfect midfielder. Yaya's possession and passing game, De Jong's tackling ability, Barry's brain and Milner's energy.


Add Dzeko's heading ability, Aguero's finishing & Clichy's pace & you'd almost have Colin Bell.

That's what we need; a true world class great allround player (or two) in midfield. I love DeJong, Barry & Toure but they are bits of players who do specific jobs, albeit very very well. If we could find two young superstars (Bell & Roy K***ne/ young Vieira types) we would win every single game we played against anyone. It's time a couple came along as nobody of that calibre has appeared since dirty Roy & Vieira became past it. Athletes with supreme talent. Hargreaves was actually the nearest thing to RK.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:16 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I tend to agree Ted, the defensive side of his game leaves a lot to be desired. However what he brings to our midfield is invaluable, he is almost impossible to dispossess, he is unstoppable on them surging runs, and his passing and vision in general is better than any of our other "holding midfielders".

In fact out of the four players we have in that position you can take characteristics from each to make the perfect midfielder. Yaya's possession and passing game, De Jong's tackling ability, Barry's brain and Milner's energy.


Add Dzeko's heading ability, Aguero's finishing & Clichy's pace & you'd almost have Colin Bell.

That's what we need; a true world class great allround player (or two) in midfield. I love DeJong, Barry & Toure but they are bits of players who do specific jobs, albeit very very well. If we could find two young superstars (Bell & Roy K***ne/ young Vieira types) we would win every single game we played against anyone. It's time a couple came along as nobody of that calibre has appeared since dirty Roy & Vieira became past it. Athletes with supreme talent. Hargreaves was actually the nearest thing to RK.


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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:46 pm

Honestly, in one on one situations he's as good as anyone. Never seen a player so powerful when running with the ball.
However I disagree that he is a a defensive midfielder. All his good work is going forwards, so play him and De Jong.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Burt » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:06 pm

HIt the nail on the head Hazy2.

Keane is an utter cunt. No two ways about it. Look at the assault on Alfie.

A fuclin COWARD of the highest degree and I fuclin hate it when Blues big him up.

I'd luv him to be in with Alfie in a locked room for ten minutes.

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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby FA cup winners 2006 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:56 pm

hopefully when de jong is back fit, yaya will be moved further up the field like last season for some games and rotated for others. yaya offers very little defensively and actually looks uninterested if he has to do anything to help out when we don't have the ball.

yaya, tevez, agureo, silva, nasri & johnson should be competing for the 3 spots behind the striker, some games will require yaya to be dropped, some times it will be nasri or barry
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby freshie » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:36 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
99 successful passes from 108 against Fulham would suggest he's a tad better than hit and miss.

( if you were fishing with that post then congrats you've caught a live one )


No I wasn't fishing. He has been poor in most of the games he has played this season. Whether that is down to a lack of form or not being played in his best position I am not sure. One thing I am certain of, however, is that if Milner or De Jong are fit he currently does not deserve his place in the team.

With regard to the passing stats you have pulled up, I am afraid they do not tell the whole story. Most of the time he receives the ball with his back to goal and then proceeds to pass either square or backwards (not exactly difficult to do) because he has the turning circle of an oil tanker, which slows our play down.
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