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Re: LESCOTT

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:26 pm

Wooders wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:Great man-management there Mr Moyes...... try and convince a player to stay with your club by dropping him and effectively making him publicly responsible for a defeat.... quality stuff


Surely even Moyes can see that it is his own attitude that has disrupted the team? Fabregas jogged past virtually every player for one of his goals on the weekend without so much as even a half hearted tackle. You can't single Lescott out for that one.

Nah it was all Lescott's fault mate, it's pathetic the sly way Moyes has basicly tried to say just that over the last few days. "his atitude isn't right, he's upset his team mates, no Moyes you have fucked up BIG time by keeping a player who has handed in a transfer request you tit.

I know for certain that if a City player handed in a transfer request I wouldn't want to see him in a City shirt again. If it had been any other club in for Lescott i'm sure Moyes would of fucked him off after he handed in the TR, but because it's us, he has to score brownie points with the media by "standing up to City" for when he takes over from Taggert at the Swamp.

The mans a pillock and he's now regreting his actions and is trying to get the highest fee possible with his "City havn't even met our value" bollocks.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Kiss_The_Goat » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:20 am

Sell him Moyes, you tit. He doesnt want to be there. He doesnt want to play or train for Everton. Its over. Move on. Deal with it. This is dragging out far too long because Moyes is a stubborn, desperate tosser. Enough already.

"Everton boss David Moyes has refuted claims the club are about to sell Joleon Lescott to Manchester City, after the England international was axed from their Europa League squad for tonight’s game. Moyes suggested the situation had not changed, and if Premier League counterpart Mark Hughes wanted to sign the former Wolves star, he would have to meet Everton’s valuation.

Moyes told The Guardian: “It is not inevitable that he is leaving,”

“All I have done is make a decision for this game that may or may not be the right decision, but Saturday's performance against Arsenal made me realise that I had to do something.”

“I couldn't let it drift.”

“It doesn't mean his valuation has dropped,” Moyes continued.

“If anything it has made my resolve stronger.”

“The talks he has had with people have obviously upset him and he has lost his direction, but that can be brought back.”

“I can see a time when he is fully focused on Everton again. He has a World Cup to aim for at the end of the season.”

Moyes suggested he could understand City’s interest in his want-away star, claiming English centrebacks are at a premium.

“Most people would choose a British centre-back; you think of Jamie Carragher at Liverpool or John Terry at Chelsea.”

“John Terry and Rio Ferdinand are first choice for England and after that there is a group of Phil Jagielka, Joleon Lescott with Mathew Upson maybe between them,”

“After that there is another group and you ask where do England go for their next centre-backs?”

“There is a lack of replacements and because of the shortage the prices of centre-backs have risen dramatically.”

“People were talking about £40m-£50m for John Terry. The next group is Jagielka, Lescott and Upson, and, with all due respect to Upson, he is 30. The price we have been offered is not close to our valuation.”

The Everton boss yesterday spoke openly about his reasons for dropping Lescott and making the 27-year-old train alone.

He continued: “His attitude has been poor post-Arsenal,”

“Normally he is a very good trainer and very focused but he doesn't seem to be that at this present time.”

“It doesn't mean the end of his Everton career.”

“He might be in the first team squad for this weekend [Burnley on Sunday] if I see there is a change in his attitude.”

“The biggest disappointment is that Joleon is a very good boy behind it all and the people who have been advising him are giving him poor information and have turned a good lad into something else.”

“I can see by the reaction of his team mates that they are disappointed in him as well.”

“There should be some honour and integrity between clubs and if that goes it becomes a free for all,”Everton boss David Moyes has refuted claims the club are about to sell Joleon Lescott to Manchester City, after the England international was axed from their Europa League squad for tonight’s game. Moyes suggested the situation had not changed, and if Premier League counterpart Mark Hughes wanted to sign the former Wolves star, he would have to meet Everton’s valuation.

Moyes told The Guardian: “It is not inevitable that he is leaving,”

“All I have done is make a decision for this game that may or may not be the right decision, but Saturday's performance against Arsenal made me realise that I had to do something.”

“I couldn't let it drift.”

“It doesn't mean his valuation has dropped,” Moyes continued.

“If anything it has made my resolve stronger.”

“The talks he has had with people have obviously upset him and he has lost his direction, but that can be brought back.”

“I can see a time when he is fully focused on Everton again. He has a World Cup to aim for at the end of the season.”

Moyes suggested he could understand City’s interest in his want-away star, claiming English centrebacks are at a premium.

“Most people would choose a British centre-back; you think of Jamie Carragher at Liverpool or John Terry at Chelsea.”

“John Terry and Rio Ferdinand are first choice for England and after that there is a group of Phil Jagielka, Joleon Lescott with Mathew Upson maybe between them,”

“After that there is another group and you ask where do England go for their next centre-backs?”

“There is a lack of replacements and because of the shortage the prices of centre-backs have risen dramatically.”

“People were talking about £40m-£50m for John Terry. The next group is Jagielka, Lescott and Upson, and, with all due respect to Upson, he is 30. The price we have been offered is not close to our valuation.”

The Everton boss yesterday spoke openly about his reasons for dropping Lescott and making the 27-year-old train alone.

He continued: “His attitude has been poor post-Arsenal,”

“Normally he is a very good trainer and very focused but he doesn't seem to be that at this present time.”

“It doesn't mean the end of his Everton career.”

“He might be in the first team squad for this weekend [Burnley on Sunday] if I see there is a change in his attitude.”

“The biggest disappointment is that Joleon is a very good boy behind it all and the people who have been advising him are giving him poor information and have turned a good lad into something else.”

“I can see by the reaction of his team mates that they are disappointed in him as well.”

“There should be some honour and integrity between clubs and if that goes it becomes a free for all,”
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby CTID Hants » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:27 am

The thing that puzzles me is that Lescott put in his TR 2 weeks ago right?

Moyes then states our FIRST (& the 2ND) offer coming so late was hampering his chances of signing a repalcement?

Well he's shot himself in the foot by "toys out of the pram" he's done. Had he been grown up about it he could have had his replacement by now?

He's making himself look stupid now
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby avoidconfusion » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:44 am

What I think is hilarious is that he first said Lescott is not for sale and now we are suddenly just not offering enough. Hypocritical twat.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Wooders » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:47 am

Fed up with this bloody circus now - 30 million? Don't be a daft cunt moyes.

Lets walk away and let the message from Moyes to his squad be

No, you can't move on even if you ask formally after a generous offer
No, you can't move onto a club that will double your salary
No, you can't move onto a club that will be more likely to enter the champs league (and prosper) than Everton
Yes, you will be seperated from the squad and treated like a child for all to see for daring to go against what Moyes wants.

This might be one of our secret weapons this season as far as the toffees are concerned. Its clear the whole squad don't like Moyes's stance and long may it continue.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby john@staustell » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:53 am

Moyes is the man who gave a silent press interview cos he didn't like what the reporter asked him, and he's criticising others' attitude? Priceless.

Suspect City will turn the screw on price now, reduce it by £1M per day is the answer.

Everton had one really bad season under Moyes when they just escaped relegation and I think they've always had another one coming, punching above their weight, lucky 1-0s all the time.

Take out a few players and they're buggered. No quality, no depth, no money! In fact the way they're looking at the moment they're buggered anyway.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:49 am

I'm with that man.
I think they look pooh every time I watch them, and I'm convinced that a shit season is not that far off again.
I don't expect them to trouble the top four or five this year.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Mr Miyagi » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:53 am

john@staustell wrote:Moyes is the man who gave a silent press interview cos he didn't like what the reporter asked him, and he's criticising others' attitude? Priceless.

Suspect City will turn the screw on price now, reduce it by £1M per day is the answer.


I seriously hope so.... if we pay anything above 20million for Lescott now that all this has happened, I will be really peed off....
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Fish111 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:05 am

Moyes doesn't want to sell, Lescott really wants to leave, Lescott tells Moyes to not play him, Moyes plays him, Moyes makes Lescott train on his own citing a shit attitude, Moyes drops him from the team for Europa game, transfer window closes, Lescott is all of a sudden happy as larry still at Everton and plays his best football for Moyes after being treated so badly and making him a pariah with the fans.

Great management Moyes, your deluded to think after August 31st everything in the garden will be rosy, we will bag him in January for £12-15M when you are struggling and you need the cash to strengthen to stave off relegation.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby irblinx » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:11 am

We should have walked away a fortnight ago, at least. Lescott is a decent player and would ideally be slotted in instead of Bridge rather than keeping Ned out of the centre but he would've been overpriced at £18m.

Look elsewhere FFS Hughes
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Esky » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:23 am

irblinx wrote:We should have walked away a fortnight ago, at least. Lescott is a decent player and would ideally be slotted in instead of Bridge rather than keeping Ned out of the centre but he would've been overpriced at £18m.

Look elsewhere FFS Hughes


Agree entirely; 18 million seems overblown (even considering the 'City premium'), 22 million would have to be our uppermost limit and 30 million would be daylight robbery.

Lescott is a very good player, he's left footed and he's English. He's still not one from the uppermost defensive bracket in world football though and no amount of spin can mask it. There are other players out there; better ones even that could be bought for the same money and half the trouble.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Twobob » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:17 pm

Moyes is starting to piss me off in this now - He's begining to come out more and more like Tagart and its almost as if he's modeling himself for Bacon Faces job when he fucls off.

All this bull about us not speaking with the club and incinuating that we've tapped lescott up - Bull Shit, with this kind of high profile deal the talks go on at Chairman level and it doesnt hang on your word you goggle eyed freek!

The stance by him is just to show that he's got the agression or Taggart and the control of his players - He's so far up the whiskey fueled clownes arse that he see's out of Fergies gob already!

The first whisper that the Scum want him and he'll be off - he doesnt give a flying fuck about Everton and he doesnt give a flying fuck about Lescott.

Reduce our bid now, the ball is in our court thanks to the way he's publicly dealt with this while we've done very little in the press.
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Re: LESCOTT

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Re: LESCOTT
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Why did you make me read that article twice?
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Wooders » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:19 pm

irblinx wrote:We should have walked away a fortnight ago, at least. Lescott is a decent player and would ideally be slotted in instead of Bridge rather than keeping Ned out of the centre but he would've been overpriced at £18m.

Look elsewhere FFS Hughes


absolutely - we've done well with walking away from deals before they descend into farce this summer with eto'o - lets not make ourselves look stupid with Eto'o. Time we forced their hand on the OS, "We've made an offer of 20 million, take or leave, they have until Sunday to decide" would be my personal stance.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:20 pm

Lets do the Jonathon Greening approach and get Lescott on loan for a year. Then we can send him back and buy a better defender for the champions league ;-)

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 12,00.html
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Wooders » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:23 pm

MaineRoadMemories wrote:Lets do the Jonathon Greening approach and get Lescott on loan for a year. Then we can send him back and buy a better defender for the champions league ;-)

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 12,00.html


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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:24 pm

Wooders wrote:
irblinx wrote:We should have walked away a fortnight ago, at least. Lescott is a decent player and would ideally be slotted in instead of Bridge rather than keeping Ned out of the centre but he would've been overpriced at £18m.

Look elsewhere FFS Hughes


absolutely - we've done well with walking away from deals before they descend into farce this summer with eto'o - lets not make ourselves look stupid with Eto'o. Time we forced their hand on the OS, "We've made an offer of 20 million, take or leave, they have until Sunday to decide" would be my personal stance.

I agree, but with one change - swap 20 for 12.

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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:26 pm

1) If we've asked Lescott to put his career on the line & chuck in a transfer request, then we walk out & leave him to stew, we'll never have a player trust us again. That's out of the question. We have to be seen to make every effort to sign him, even if it doesn't happen.

2) Why are people so keen to let Everton off the hook? It doesn't matter to us if this goes on all season. It'll have no effect on us whatsoever, just ruin Everton; which is a good thing surely? This bollox about the players being against Lescott is just Moyes trying to save face. They're against HIM. Even his No1 boy Cahill, who he brought through from nowhere to the PL publicly backed Lescott.

Moyes has dropped an almighty bollock. It's backfired horribly & he doesn't know what to do. It can go on for 2 years or until he's sacked as far as I'm concerned. Keep it up City.
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby sandman » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:07 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:1) If we've asked Lescott to put his career on the line & chuck in a transfer request, then we walk out & leave him to stew, we'll never have a player trust us again. That's out of the question. We have to be seen to make every effort to sign him, even if it doesn't happen.

2) Why are people so keen to let Everton off the hook? It doesn't matter to us if this goes on all season. It'll have no effect on us whatsoever, just ruin Everton; which is a good thing surely? This bollox about the players being against Lescott is just Moyes trying to save face. They're against HIM. Even his No1 boy Cahill, who he brought through from nowhere to the PL publicly backed Lescott.

Moyes has dropped an almighty bollock. It's backfired horribly & he doesn't know what to do. It can go on for 2 years or until he's sacked as far as I'm concerned. Keep it up City.


Aye the other players need to know that they have the opportunity to better themselves should the right offer come along, why improve and want to show what you can do when you know you will never play anywhere better than where you currently are?
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Re: LESCOTT

Postby Mase » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:12 pm

So......Moyes will not sell him because he's so valuable to Everton. But he won't play him either and Lescott has to train on his own while the club are still paying his wages. Does Kenwright know how to run a company or what?
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