Robinho to Barca? [MERGED]

[Mark Garrett]

Do you reckon Robinho could become one of these cult figures at City (a little like Tevez at West Ham or Hughes at Chelsea) should he leave in January?

Not a cult figure or a heroe, but a symbol. Which of course was the main reason of buying him in the first place; making a statement that we're rich as fuck and will be a force to be reckoned with. Remember that the take over happened on the last day of the transfer window, so one big splash, was pretty much al the sheik could do to show he meant business.
What I'm trying to say - admist my ramblings - is that we will remember him as a symbol of the new City and of the turning point. Not as a cult figure. That is if he goes to Barca, of course.

Agree with you Nool.

Robinho needs to get his head down and play well for City and try to get back in the team. He needs to prove that he can put his tremendous ability to use on a consistent basis, and even more so, show he is capable of turning some of his fine home performances on the road aswell.

Robinho has all the talent but the perception is that he is mentally weak when he has been so anonymous away from home.

[Blue2]

Great player on his day, just isn't his day enough for my liking. Goes awol in away games ( can't remember him having a really good one)

If he wants to go, then get rid, it wouldn't upset me too much. But if he would rather stay and be part of it , then that wouldn't upset me either. He needs to up his game though.

[dazlebluefrog]

ffs how many times do i have to say this [b]BRAZILIANS CARN'T PLAY IN ENGLISH FOOTBALL[/b they like to show off ,have time to do things, in england they don't get this,its to fast for them ,
so robbie goes back to spain so fcukin what ,how many games has he played to help us to the top 4 ?how many goals has he scored this year ?how many games did he play away last year??i mean not just a name on the starting 11 like at stoke ,wigan,bolton etc etc etc ,let him go say thak you & good luck mate

[Sister of fu]

Great player on his day, just isn't his day enough for my liking. Goes awol in away games ( can't remember him having a really good one)

If he wants to go, then get rid, it wouldn't upset me too much. But if he would rather stay and be part of it , then that wouldn't upset me either. He needs to up his game though.

in total agreement with you

[Beefymcfc]

Football FanCast guest columnist Lee Harper feels that Mark Hughes would be crazy sacrifice Robinho in January.

Robinho is arguably the most talented player to don a City shirt probably since Colin Bell and when he plays it an absolute pleasure to see a world class player showcase his craft; I know many will pinpoint his form away from home as a subject of debate, but he was hardly in a team that was firing all cylinders, or one that was putting in the notable effort that they always seem to show when at Eastlands.

There has been a huge amount of talk of late in the Press about his future and a rumour about a possible move to Barcelona has been mooted in January. If you believe the reports that Hughes is perhaps preparing to sacrifice the Brazilian in order to entice both Carles Puyol and Eric Abidal to Eastlands, then I believe that we will be making a terrible mistake. If we want the Barca duo then why not buy them, rather than sell who I believe to be the jewel in our crown.

I am not naive to suggest that I don't believe that there isn't any friction between Hughes and the player, because I believe there is, given Robinho's public backing of Elano and various other issues, but surely there comes a time when you ignore certain infractions a player may have, if you know it is for the benefit of the team. I know that Bellamy has done extremely well for us and filling in on that left hand side, but is he honestly a better and more productive player than the Brazilian would be? This is no slight on Bellamy, as I think any successful team needs quality like him in the squad, but as a regular starter surely the team will be much stronger with Robinho in it, especially one that has designs on being one of the best in Europe in the coming seasons?

As I said at the start of this piece, Robinho was outstanding in a team that for the large part that was struggling and we have yet to see what kind of performance he would produce alongside players of Toure, Barry, Tevez and Adebayor's class. It could take the team to a totally different level and perhaps prove the difference in whether we are capable of finishing in the top four or beyond this season, therefore Hughes cannot and mustn't contemplating cashing in on him or looking at a possible swap deal in January. A world class team needs world class players, and there are only a few, that are better than Robinho, in my opinion.

[Blue2]

Football FanCast guest columnist Lee Harper feels that Mark Hughes would be crazy sacrifice Robinho in January.

Robinho is arguably the most talented player to don a City shirt probably since Colin Bell and when he plays it an absolute pleasure to see a world class player showcase his craft; I know many will pinpoint his form away from home as a subject of debate, but he was hardly in a team that was firing all cylinders, or one that was putting in the notable effort that they always seem to show when at Eastlands.

There has been a huge amount of talk of late in the Press about his future and a rumour about a possible move to Barcelona has been mooted in January. If you believe the reports that Hughes is perhaps preparing to sacrifice the Brazilian in order to entice both Carles Puyol and Eric Abidal to Eastlands, then I believe that we will be making a terrible mistake. If we want the Barca duo then why not buy them, rather than sell who I believe to be the jewel in our crown.

I am not naive to suggest that I don't believe that there isn't any friction between Hughes and the player, because I believe there is, given Robinho's public backing of Elano and various other issues, but surely there comes a time when you ignore certain infractions a player may have, if you know it is for the benefit of the team. I know that Bellamy has done extremely well for us and filling in on that left hand side, but is he honestly a better and more productive player than the Brazilian would be? This is no slight on Bellamy, as I think any successful team needs quality like him in the squad, but as a regular starter surely the team will be much stronger with Robinho in it, especially one that has designs on being one of the best in Europe in the coming seasons?

As I said at the start of this piece, Robinho was outstanding in a team that for the large part that was struggling and we have yet to see what kind of performance he would produce alongside players of Toure, Barry, Tevez and Adebayor's class. It could take the team to a totally different level and perhaps prove the difference in whether we are capable of finishing in the top four or beyond this season, therefore Hughes cannot and mustn't contemplating cashing in on him or looking at a possible swap deal in January. A world class team needs world class players, and there are only a few, that are better than Robinho, in my opinion.

Lot of sense there, but should he want to go, what do we do?

[Beefymcfc]

Football FanCast guest columnist Lee Harper feels that Mark Hughes would be crazy sacrifice Robinho in January.

Robinho is arguably the most talented player to don a City shirt probably since Colin Bell and when he plays it an absolute pleasure to see a world class player showcase his craft; I know many will pinpoint his form away from home as a subject of debate, but he was hardly in a team that was firing all cylinders, or one that was putting in the notable effort that they always seem to show when at Eastlands.

There has been a huge amount of talk of late in the Press about his future and a rumour about a possible move to Barcelona has been mooted in January. If you believe the reports that Hughes is perhaps preparing to sacrifice the Brazilian in order to entice both Carles Puyol and Eric Abidal to Eastlands, then I believe that we will be making a terrible mistake. If we want the Barca duo then why not buy them, rather than sell who I believe to be the jewel in our crown.

I am not naive to suggest that I don't believe that there isn't any friction between Hughes and the player, because I believe there is, given Robinho's public backing of Elano and various other issues, but surely there comes a time when you ignore certain infractions a player may have, if you know it is for the benefit of the team. I know that Bellamy has done extremely well for us and filling in on that left hand side, but is he honestly a better and more productive player than the Brazilian would be? This is no slight on Bellamy, as I think any successful team needs quality like him in the squad, but as a regular starter surely the team will be much stronger with Robinho in it, especially one that has designs on being one of the best in Europe in the coming seasons?

As I said at the start of this piece, Robinho was outstanding in a team that for the large part that was struggling and we have yet to see what kind of performance he would produce alongside players of Toure, Barry, Tevez and Adebayor's class. It could take the team to a totally different level and perhaps prove the difference in whether we are capable of finishing in the top four or beyond this season, therefore Hughes cannot and mustn't contemplating cashing in on him or looking at a possible swap deal in January. A world class team needs world class players, and there are only a few, that are better than Robinho, in my opinion.

Lot of sense there, but should he want to go, what do we do?

Just thought it was a good post mate, however as for your question, we don't have a choice, he goes and we move onwards and upwards; like always!

[Fish111]

Don't get too attached to little 'Robbie' he won't be City player for the start of the 2010/2011 season, i've got my bet in early with BetFred just to get the good odds.

[Vhero]

Would hate for him to go and as much as people keep banging on about cult hero etc.. the kids love him and that's a strong point for the club. As much spin as you put on this won't change the fact we would be worse off without him as he is still a world class player i'm not saying he's not replaceable but he has the potential to be the best in the world something half our current squad does not including superman but he would be hard to replace on AND off the pitch.

[Original Dub]

Would hate for him to go and as much as people keep banging on about cult hero etc.. the kids love him and that's a strong point for the club. As much spin as you put on this won't change the fact we would be worse off without him as he is still a world class player i'm not saying he's not replaceable but he has the potential to be the best in the world something half our current squad does not including superman but he would be hard to replace on AND off the pitch.

I got confused with that being the longest sentence on here for some time...

Why another reference to superman? What's your story with him BTW?

Just curious...

[Scatman]

Would hate for him to go and as much as people keep banging on about cult hero etc.. the kids love him and that's a strong point for the club. As much spin as you put on this won't change the fact we would be worse off without him as he is still a world class player i'm not saying he's not replaceable but he has the potential to be the best in the world something half our current squad does not including superman but he would be hard to replace on AND off the pitch.

I got confused with that being the longest sentence on here for some time...

Why another reference to superman? What's your story with him BTW?

Just curious...

It sounds to me like he thinks he's our number 2 behind rob. Quite a glowinig reference

[Sister of fu]

Manchester City boss Mark Hughes insists he is not unduly concerned by quotes attributed to Robinho this week that saw the Brazilian state a desire to play for Barcelona.

The injured forward made the headlines in Spain after declaring an interest in moving to Camp Nou in order to play under Pep Guardiola, a known admirer of his talents.

It is not the first time such conjecture has emanated from Robinho's camp but Hughes is refusing to worry about paper talk, which he feels is often taken out of context.

On the contrary, having accepted a player of such calibre will always attract speculation, Hughes is instead focusing on Robinho's imminent return to City's first team.

"There is always speculation and noise surrounding Robbie, I think that's been the case since he came to the club," said Hughes on Sky Sports News.

"I think what you are referring to is some comments that originated from the Spanish press and we don't know the context, or how the questions were put to Robbie to get the response that they did.

"You can get a collection of quotes that when you tie them all up and put them together it looks like it's a story. I think there is that to be factored in. If you read the vast majority of the quotes you'll see there was a lot of positives in regards how he feels about Manchester City and what is ahead of us here."

He added: "That's going to happen and it does happen with Robbie on a regular basis. He's a great guy and the only thing that is frustrating at the moment is that he is not feeling well and can't make himself available for the team.

"Hopefully that will be resolved in the next week to ten days. We are not in the process of taking outstanding players out of the team.

"We want to complement the outstanding players at the club. We are looking to build, not dismantle."

[Ted Hughes]

Why have so many people got agendas against OUR players & staff? Any subject that comes up you get the same little groups of people peddling their own personal hatred against their own pet hate individual players or the manager.

If a player is an obvious trouble maker or slags off the club I can understand it but there are people who seem obsessed, even making up stories about individuals or the manager just to try & involve others in their pathetic crusades.

These people you're stirring shit about work for City. You're supposed to be City fans for fucks sake.

[crossan]

Why have so many people got agendas against OUR players & staff? Any subject that comes up you get the same little groups of people peddling their own personal hatred against their own pet hate individual players or the manager.

If a player is an obvious trouble maker or slags off the club I can understand it but there are people who seem obsessed, even making up stories about individuals or the manager just to try & involve others in their pathetic crusades.

These people you're stirring shit about work for City. You're supposed to be City fans for fucks sake.

Its because we have changed,we are no longer the homely little City that was nearly everyones second team,we are a mega rich club that intends on ruling the football world,full of money grabbing mercanaries ( not my word's )...that's why.

[Ted Hughes]

Why have so many people got agendas against OUR players & staff? Any subject that comes up you get the same little groups of people peddling their own personal hatred against their own pet hate individual players or the manager.

If a player is an obvious trouble maker or slags off the club I can understand it but there are people who seem obsessed, even making up stories about individuals or the manager just to try & involve others in their pathetic crusades.

These people you're stirring shit about work for City. You're supposed to be City fans for fucks sake.

Its because we have changed,we are no longer the homely little City that was nearly everyones second team,we are a mega rich club that intends on ruling the football world,full of money grabbing mercanaries ( not my word's )...that's why.

None of those 'mercenary' players would've come to City if they didn't believe we were building a top side though. Anyway my first memory of this kind of horrible unreasonable hatred was as a small child listening to people screaming hatred & abuse at Ian Bowyer & wondering what these adults knew about football that I, as a kid, didn't as he seemed to be having a perfectly decent game... I now realise they knew fuck all.

[mcfc1632]

Why have so many people got agendas against OUR players & staff? Any subject that comes up you get the same little groups of people peddling their own personal hatred against their own pet hate individual players or the manager.

If a player is an obvious trouble maker or slags off the club I can understand it but there are people who seem obsessed, even making up stories about individuals or the manager just to try & involve others in their pathetic crusades.

These people you're stirring shit about work for City. You're supposed to be City fans for fucks sake.

Its because we have changed,we are no longer the homely little City that was nearly everyones second team,we are a mega rich club that intends on ruling the football world,full of money grabbing mercanaries ( not my word's )...that's why.

None of those 'mercenary' players would've come to City if they didn't believe we were building a top side though. Anyway my first memory of this kind of horrible unreasonable hatred was as a small child listening to people screaming hatred & abuse at Ian Bowyer & wondering what these adults knew about football that I, as a kid, didn't as he seemed to be having a perfectly decent game... I now realise they knew fuck all.

I am so whole-heartedly with you!!!

Most on this site are bright enough to know deep down that the media exaggerate - distort - even lie to try and create a story - yet so many then reward these bastards by repeating and building upon the stories - WHY??

FFS - if this is what the fans are going to be like when the media are just starting to turn against us - what will it be like in a year or 2??

[Fidel Castro]

Manchester City boss Mark Hughes insists he is not unduly concerned by quotes attributed to Robinho this week that saw the Brazilian state a desire to play for Barcelona.

The injured forward made the headlines in Spain after declaring an interest in moving to Camp Nou in order to play under Pep Guardiola, a known admirer of his talents.

It is not the first time such conjecture has emanated from Robinho's camp but Hughes is refusing to worry about paper talk, which he feels is often taken out of context.

On the contrary, having accepted a player of such calibre will always attract speculation, Hughes is instead focusing on Robinho's imminent return to City's first team.

"There is always speculation and noise surrounding Robbie, I think that's been the case since he came to the club," said Hughes on Sky Sports News.

"I think what you are referring to is some comments that originated from the Spanish press and we don't know the context, or how the questions were put to Robbie to get the response that they did.

"You can get a collection of quotes that when you tie them all up and put them together it looks like it's a story. I think there is that to be factored in. If you read the vast majority of the quotes you'll see there was a lot of positives in regards how he feels about Manchester City and what is ahead of us here."

He added: "That's going to happen and it does happen with Robbie on a regular basis. He's a great guy and the only thing that is frustrating at the moment is that he is not feeling well and can't make himself available for the team.

"Hopefully that will be resolved in the next week to ten days. We are not in the process of taking outstanding players out of the team.

"We want to complement the outstanding players at the club. We are looking to build, not dismantle."

Well said Leslie. Hughes wouldn't come out and say this if he was planning to sell Robbie.

[Original Dub]

Would hate for him to go and as much as people keep banging on about cult hero etc.. the kids love him and that's a strong point for the club. As much spin as you put on this won't change the fact we would be worse off without him as he is still a world class player i'm not saying he's not replaceable but he has the potential to be the best in the world something half our current squad does not including superman but he would be hard to replace on AND off the pitch.

I got confused with that being the longest sentence on here for some time...

Why another reference to superman? What's your story with him BTW?

Just curious...

It sounds to me like he thinks he's our number 2 behind rob. Quite a glowinig reference

Oh right, thanks scatman... I interpreted it that Robinho is the only player in our squad that could become the best player in the world.

Personally, I think he's further away than quite a few other players... we've only seen one full season so the superman comparrison I found strange...

Its hard to see if any of our players could become the best in the world IMO.

[Robinho_Is_GOD]

Has gone on record many times just lately about how he would love to play for Barcelona, have also heard from many people that it’s a matter of when not if, apparently he hates Manchester, the weather, food etc.

I see him going,

I can only see him going if Hughes is 100% sure he cannot handle a true World Class Talented individual......

With Robinho playing we missed 0 goals in 7 games (nope I am not saying he is solely responsible but), as he takes more attention towards him, than a RSC, Tevez or de Jong does do, as they cannot open a defence up with a pass or score from out of nothing, like Robinho can.

BTW Citytillidie, who is it that has said many times, Robinho? or the Newspapers/media?, the same Papers/Media that never wanted him to join City in the first place and want us to get rid of him, as it would help them keep the cartel in working order then, with City's "Top player" gone....(Barry joined to play in the same team as him, RSC wanted to play in the team with him, Adebayor and Tevez both spoke of Robinho being here was a convincing point in them agreeing to join).

Ignore the Media/Papers/Scum (all are the same thing anyhow).

[Robinho_Is_GOD]

For all the City fans saying we wouldn't miss Robinho if he left, just ask yourself one question, if a side like City were too good for a player like Robinho, and don't need him to help make them better.....why are Barcelona (THE BEST TEAM IN EUROPE, soon to be the World) chasing him, my guess is that must mean that Robinho, is one of the very best around and true World Class talent (which I know he is anyhow), and if he is good enough for Barcelona & Brazil, then he is certainly good enough and wanted at City.