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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:05 am

Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He would walk into our team. Give the fuck over.
Hes like a deeper version of David Silva. Brilliant player.


Nope.

He is a poor man's alonso imo

And we're all entitled to our opinions. I really rate him.
He'd get in ahead of Garcia or Barry.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:21 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:And we're all entitled to our opinions. I really rate him.
He'd get in ahead of Garcia or Barry.


Agree with you there. Our defensive "holding" midfielder doesnt actually do a right lot of tackling. Most of the ball win in midfield is due to a misplaced pass because of pressure on the opposition. Therefore the primary consideration for our deep lying midfielder is to be able to collect and distribute the ball, normally a short distance.

Nigel de Jong was too limited in his ability to spot a pass or make a run with the ball to offer us enough in that position, however when we play Yaya there, although it gives us a big imposing figure in the middle, the reality is that he is not a ball player, he is best deployed as a ball carrier and an attacking threat. He also doesnt make many tackles as outlined above because he doesnt need to, nor does he win headers in midfield. His pass is generally also De Jong like, lacking in invention or vision and slowing the transition from defence to attack.

Thats not a criticism of Yaya by the way, its a criticism in how he is deployed, and the fact we dont have the right player in the squad to fulfil that role.

For all these reasons, a player like Modric, who is tenacious and can put in a tackle if needed, with an ability to dummy a player out of the way to buy himself time, then pick a probing pass into an area we can cause damage would be the perfect player for our system.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:05 am

Slim wrote:
What's a dollar pound?


Espn press pass currency.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Swales4ever » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:29 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Slim wrote:
What's a dollar pound?


Espn press pass currency.

1 British Pound (GBP) is equal to 1.5282 Australian Dollar (AUD)
GBP-AUD Exchange Rate of 1.5282 as of 01:23:48 Wall Str. time

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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:31 am

Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He would walk into our team. Give the fuck over.
Hes like a deeper version of David Silva. Brilliant player.


Nope.

He is a poor man's alonso imo


He is the one I would have, the tip tappy could be supported with his long range of passing.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Green & Blue » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:50 am

Looks like a deal is underway as Mancini and Modric discuss terms

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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Cit.revenge » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:57 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He would walk into our team. Give the fuck over.
Hes like a deeper version of David Silva. Brilliant player.


Nope.

He is a poor man's alonso imo


He is the one I would have, the tip tappy could be supported with his long range of passing.

Yap he would be a good option to have but hes price is to high , just to have him on bench to replace Silva or Nasri and i cant rate him with Barry and Garcia because he cant play at the back , he has pace and good pass .I think hes great player, but overall 30- 40 mil is to much.By the way i read that we can get Cabaye is there any truth in that ?
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Cit.revenge » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:57 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He would walk into our team. Give the fuck over.
Hes like a deeper version of David Silva. Brilliant player.


Nope.

He is a poor man's alonso imo


He is the one I would have, the tip tappy could be supported with his long range of passing.

Yap he would be a good option to have but hes price is to high , just to have him on bench to replace Silva or Nasri and i cant rate him with Barry and Garcia because he cant play at the back , he has pace and good pass .I think hes great player, but overall 30- 40 mil is to much.By the way i read that we can get Cabaye is there any truth in that ?
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Cit.revenge » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:57 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He would walk into our team. Give the fuck over.
Hes like a deeper version of David Silva. Brilliant player.


Nope.

He is a poor man's alonso imo


He is the one I would have, the tip tappy could be supported with his long range of passing.

Yap he would be a good option to have but hes price is to high , just to have him on bench to replace Silva or Nasri and i cant rate him with Barry and Garcia because he cant play at the back , he has pace and good pass and .I think hes great player, but overall 30- 40 mil is to much.By the way i read that we can get Cabaye is there any truth in that ?
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Cit.revenge » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:58 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He would walk into our team. Give the fuck over.
Hes like a deeper version of David Silva. Brilliant player.


Nope.

He is a poor man's alonso imo


He is the one I would have, the tip tappy could be supported with his long range of passing.

Yap he would be a good option to have but hes price is to high , just to have him on bench to replace Silva or Nasri and i cant rate him with Barry and Garcia because he cant play at the back , he has pace and good pass .I think hes great player, but overall 30- 40 mil is to much.By the way i read that we can get Cabaye is there any truth in that ?
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:33 am

Cit.revenge wrote:Yap he would be a good option to have but hes price is to high , just to have him on bench to replace Silva or Nasri and i cant rate him with Barry and Garcia because he cant play at the back , he has pace and good pass .I think hes great player, but overall 30- 40 mil is to much.By the way i read that we can get Cabaye is there any truth in that ?


He does play the quarterback role though......thats the big misconception with him, everyone thinks he is a silva player threading balls through the eye of a needle when he's not all about that, he is much more a complete player than silva in terms of his ability a little deeper

Imagine we had pizarro several years younger with a bit of pace. Collecting the ball deep and do some actual penetration from that position rather than just pass 5 yards to barry and silva. Thats modric all over.

For that matter, I would say sneijder can also play that role
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Cit.revenge » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:32 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:Yap he would be a good option to have but hes price is to high , just to have him on bench to replace Silva or Nasri and i cant rate him with Barry and Garcia because he cant play at the back , he has pace and good pass .I think hes great player, but overall 30- 40 mil is to much.By the way i read that we can get Cabaye is there any truth in that ?


He does play the quarterback role though......thats the big misconception with him, everyone thinks he is a silva player threading balls through the eye of a needle when he's not all about that, he is much more a complete player than silva in terms of his ability a little deeper

Imagine we had pizarro several years younger with a bit of pace. Collecting the ball deep and do some actual penetration from that position rather than just pass 5 yards to barry and silva. Thats modric all over.

For that matter, I would say sneijder can also play that role

But hes not that good in tackle players like Pizzaro at list from what i was watching him but maybe i m wrong , now i can se value of De Jong why we give him so cheep i will never know.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Mase » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:53 am

Cit.revenge wrote:But hes not that good in tackle players like Pizzaro at list from what i was watching him but maybe i m wrong , now i can se value of De Jong why we give him so cheep i will never know.


de Jong wouldn't sign a new contract.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:56 am

Cit.revenge wrote:But hes not that good in tackle players like Pizzaro at list from what i was watching him but maybe i m wrong , now i can se value of De Jong why we give him so cheep i will never know.


We generally win possession by forcing a mistake by applying pressure, rather than clattering into tackles. Yaya for example very rarely makes a tackle, and Modric is surprisingly tenacious despite his size.

De Jong was let go because he was one dimensional. But the problem we have is that we have replaced him with Yaya who plays a one dimensional game in that position.......collect ball, lay off to player 5 yards away. We are arguably worse off than last season, as we now have yaya effectively out of position too.

Its an issue of mancinis making, as clearly those are the instructions he gives to the guy who plays in that slot, but its a case of putting a square peg in a round hole. We need a ball player in that area of the pitch who can turn defence into attack.

We dont have that now, modric or for that matter sneijder would give us that dynamism and fluidity in midfiled that we need
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:10 pm

Swapping Modric for Barry in the team, as some have suggested, is about as viable as swapping Modric for Aguero or Zabaletta or Vincent Kompany. He doesn't do ANYTHING that Barry does, at all.

And as for him being more consistent or effective than Nasri in the Premier League, how the fuck has anybody come to that conclusion ? Effective at what exactly ? Taking the ball from A & backheeling it to B then getting it off B & then playing a lovely little pass to A, then getting it back off A &, with the outside of his foot, just curling a beautifully weighted little curving ball to B then getting it off B running to the halfwayline and passing to Gareth Bale, who runs half the length of the fucking pitch & wellys it in from 20 yards.

We already have players who can pass a ball sideways 50 times, never score & never create a goal. Nasri hasn't been a great player for City or Arsenal imo, but he's done a fucking sight more than Modric & plays like him on the shit days.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Chinners » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:13 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Swapping Modric for Barry in the team, as some have suggested, is about as viable as swapping Modric for Aguero or Zabaletta or Vincent Kompany. He doesn't do ANYTHING that Barry does, at all.

And as for him being more consistent or effective than Nasri in the Premier League, how the fuck has anybody come to that conclusion ? Effective at what exactly ? Taking the ball from A & backheeling it to B then getting it off B & then playing a lovely little pass to A, then getting it back off A &, with the outside of his foot, just curling a beautifully weighted little curving ball to B then getting it off B running to the halfwayline and passing to Gareth Bale, who runs half the length of the fucking pitch & wellys it in from 20 yards.

We already have players who can pass a ball sideways 50 times, never score & never create a goal. Nasri hasn't been a great player for City or Arsenal imo, but he's done a fucking sight more than Modric & plays like him on the shit days.



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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:18 pm

I'd take Modric, think he's class. Not as a swap for Barry though.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:27 pm

london blue 2 wrote:I'd take Modric, think he's class. Not as a swap for Barry though.


He would be perfectly ok to have hanging around to fill a place & play neat & tidy football, but it would be yet another player added to our squad, who doesn't improve our team or solve ANY of the things we are lacking.

There are loads of neat & tidy players who we could sign. All cost money & take a place in our squad which could be used by someone better, who actually adds something we don't already have.
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:34 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:I'd take Modric, think he's class. Not as a swap for Barry though.


He would be perfectly ok to have hanging around to fill a place & play neat & tidy football, but it would be yet another player added to our squad, who doesn't improve our team or solve ANY of the things we are lacking.

There are loads of neat & tidy players who we could sign. All cost money & take a place in our squad which could be used by someone better, who actually adds something we don't already have.

Had we not signed SS he would have fit nicely into that squad spot
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Re: January Transfer Window

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:40 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Swapping Modric for Barry in the team, as some have suggested, is about as viable as swapping Modric for Aguero or Zabaletta or Vincent Kompany. He doesn't do ANYTHING that Barry does, at all.

And as for him being more consistent or effective than Nasri in the Premier League, how the fuck has anybody come to that conclusion ? Effective at what exactly ? Taking the ball from A & backheeling it to B then getting it off B & then playing a lovely little pass to A, then getting it back off A &, with the outside of his foot, just curling a beautifully weighted little curving ball to B then getting it off B running to the halfwayline and passing to Gareth Bale, who runs half the length of the fucking pitch & wellys it in from 20 yards.

We already have players who can pass a ball sideways 50 times, never score & never create a goal. Nasri hasn't been a great player for City or Arsenal imo, but he's done a fucking sight more than Modric & plays like him on the shit days.


Funny you say this as it echoes what I wrote and after posting I realized I forgot to add that Nasri could do the same job if we just moved him back 10 yards.
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