oh dear! pl charges

[Mase]

We should tell the prem to stick their league up their arse and we now help form a super league .

I’ll be done with football by then anyway , might as well go down fighting and causing as much shit as we possibly can .

I’d do the same. They should be on the phone to Barca and Real straight away to sort it. This is fantastic news for Juve, Barca, Real, the Milan clubs etc.

[PeterParker]

There is one question though: Does the Premier League have the back-up of the hateful 8? Will Arse, rags or Scouse will support them an put pressure behind close doors?

What I've noticed yesterday was the narrative from any relevant newspaper: Relegation, strip of their trophies, braindead comedy like City's UCL trophies are safe and so on, plus the thing that we've said, that we have proof that the EPL leaked to the media before informing us about the decision.

It really feels like a coordinated attack against us because we've become too big, too relevant.

The laws of how this investigation will run, how the appeal rules are set, I have a feeling we are going to get robbed. I hope that club knows that and are prepared to take action.
We are too nice, and that is something that worries me.

However, I hope we are taking notice of who said what the past day, from Carragher, to the mail, sky, etc.
I think we are going to be stripped with some points, best case scenario. Somehow they will use the Juventus precedent.

Gloves off, City. The time has come.

[PeterParker]

PS: I think it's absolutely beyond logic to strip a team of their trophies when they've won that fair and square.
That has nothing to do with this.

[Mase]

We won’t be stripped of any titles mate. Juve we’re charged with match fixing, that’s why they were stripped of titles.

They strip us and it opens a can of worms - what if we took 6 points of a team that was relegated by 1 point that season? What’s to stop that team claiming they should still be in the Prem? What about us taking 4 points off a team that missed out on Europe by 2 points. It’s totally crazy to sort.

[Mase]

Like someone has mentioned on another forum - this is bigger than football and the Premier League.

The amount of his own money Mansour has put into developing Manchester, the amount of money ADG are putting into the UK - this won’t be concluded by the Premier League. There’s powers outside of football that will sort this.

[PeterParker]

Like someone has mentioned on another forum - this is bigger than football and the Premier League.

The amount of his own money Mansour has put into developing Manchester, the amount of money ADG are putting into the UK - this won’t be concluded by the Premier League. There’s powers outside of football that will sort this.

I remember something from the FIFA Documentary when Platini or Sarkozy, can't remember which, said to give the French vote to Qatar for the WC because of the investments Qatar will make in France soon enough.
So maybe that will the case here.

But no mistakes, I want their heads, especially the media.
For example, I hope Deloitte will take action against the Scouse Spitter after his comment about the revenue top they made.

That is all I want.

[s1ty m]

I posted this elsewhere. The words 'irrefutable evidence' are very strong from City. It means impossible to deny or disprove. Impossible. City have gone as strong as it is possible to go as an opening statement. This'll take years.

I'd speculate the following, but I'm as clued up as the next man, it's just my opinion:

1. Not concluded until the summer of 2024, at the earliest.
2. Mixed bag outcome, City challenge through available routes.
3. Drags on until summer of 2025.
4. Some form of deal or fudge worked out to save face or faces. This looks bad on everyone...literally everyone.
5. No stripping of titles, that's daft as it's not match-fixing...leave that to VAR.
6. Very plausible that something seismic occurs with a breakaway of some kind, etc. The current shit show is problematic, be it PL or UEFA.

I'm keeping away from the media as it is nauseating. The state of the media in this country is a fucking disgrace as it is. The tarnishing of our great club is disgusting. Disgusting.

Anyway...irrefutable is not a word you use lightly. Just saying.

[nottsblue]

Would we really want to be in a ESL with numerous clubs who for one reason or another, have fucked us over? Some repeatedly.

[Redna]

Not a single word about this mess on the EPL home site. Why?

[Mase]

Would we really want to be in a ESL with numerous clubs who for one reason or another, have fucked us over? Some repeatedly.

Or stick with a league that’s accusing us of 100+ crimes where at least 9 clubs are lobbying to get us expelled from the league.

The likes of Barca and Real need us, the hateful 8/9 don’t realise they do.

[Paul68]

Would we really want to be in a ESL with numerous clubs who for one reason or another, have fucked us over? Some repeatedly.

Or stick with a league that’s accusing us of 100+ crimes where at least 9 clubs are lobbying to get us expelled from the league.

The likes of Barca and Real need us, the hateful 8/9 don’t realise they do.

would be good to repeatedly smash the fuck out of them week after week..... just to rub it in... then fuck off at the end of another record breaking season and form a super league

I hate these cunts trying to discredit my team
It will all come out in the wash - I love City's response which is basically "bring it on.. you got nothing"
Guys - keep the faith, don't talk of leaving - could you really???

[john68]

Read this:

What happens next?
A commission will now be appointed by the chair of the Premier League’s Judicial Panel, with proceedings to be held in private and confidentially, with only their final decision published.

Is this correct?

The PL bring charges, appoint a commission to investigate their charges, zero transparency on proceedings and they only publish their findings.

An example?

A company owner accuses a worker of theft, the company owner appointments a co-owner to investigate, the co-owner does not have to publish any evidence, just announce the verdict and punishment. Punishments can be very severe.

No wonder the PL are bringing charges. We are done like a kipper.

Our only chance is if we can broaden the field, drag them into a public mud slinging contest, where ultimately the PL lose, even if nominally they win.

That will take time. No top player will touch us until it is resolved. MU and Liverpool will be spending $$$$$s under new owners.

Cannot see how we benefit from any of this. This is a lose lose for us. Better go down screaming. Make sure it is a lose lose for the PL and their 8 bastards as well.

If you cast your mind back to the UEFA investigation and how City dealt with that, it was a very similar scenario.
City were fully aware that the EUFA process was corrupt and that they were intent on banning City for 2yrs even before any investigation had begun, any evidence heard or even before any documents had been disclosed or even read. As now & as you state,all proceedings were done in private, though City were well aware that UEFA were deliberately leaking information. "City were being done like a kipper."
City and their lawyers were fully aware that there was no chance of any outcome, other than guilty.
That is, the scenario that City face now.
In the EUFA process, there was a right of appeal to CAS. City are denied that right in this case.

Because City were aware of the corrupt UEFA, they accepted they could not beat UEFA. They immediately and deliberately chose to fight this at CAS, set up their legal team and instructed them to prepare the City case at CAS.City totally ignored the UEFA process.

Because of the almost identical circumstances, I am in no doubt that City will jog along with the FA/Prem process, do what is asked but be already preparing for a high court hearing which I believe will be in the public domain and transparent.

I was told that after the UEFA ban was imposed, but prior to the CAS hearing; that City were approached by UEFA to do a deal with UEFA, similar to the one accepted by City when the very first FFP ruling was imposed some years ago. 'Accept guilt and get a slapped hand.' City refused this offer based on their experience with the previous deal being ignored by UEFA and being brought back to life with what were out of time accusations.

Like UEFA, I don't think the FA/Prem want an open hearing unless they have a solid case. Nor do I think that they want their (possible) dirty linen aired in public.
Unless the FA/Prem back down, this will end up in the High Court with City intent on taking it there.

[Mase]

Would we really want to be in a ESL with numerous clubs who for one reason or another, have fucked us over? Some repeatedly.

Or stick with a league that’s accusing us of 100+ crimes where at least 9 clubs are lobbying to get us expelled from the league.

The likes of Barca and Real need us, the hateful 8/9 don’t realise they do.

would be good to repeatedly smash the fuck out of them week after week..... just to rub it in... then fuck off at the end of another record breaking season and form a super league

I hate these cunts trying to discredit my team
It will all come out in the wash - I love City's response which is basically "bring it on.. you got nothing"
Guys - keep the faith, don't talk of leaving - could you really???

It’s drawn me closer to City to be fair. But older fans I can see calling it a day. My dads for example has seen City win everything he wants. He’s been through the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. He’s done his job in getting me to support City and taking us to Maine Road. A lot of the older fans will likely call it quits now I’d imagine.

[stupot]

Would we really want to be in a ESL with numerous clubs who for one reason or another, have fucked us over? Some repeatedly.

Or stick with a league that’s accusing us of 100+ crimes where at least 9 clubs are lobbying to get us expelled from the league.

The likes of Barca and Real need us, the hateful 8/9 don’t realise they do.

would be good to repeatedly smash the fuck out of them week after week..... just to rub it in... then fuck off at the end of another record breaking season and form a super league

I hate these cunts trying to discredit my team
It will all come out in the wash - I love City's response which is basically "bring it on.. you got nothing"
Guys - keep the faith, don't talk of leaving - could you really???

It’s drawn me closer to City to be fair. But older fans I can see calling it a day. My dads for example has seen City win everything he wants. He’s been through the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. He’s done his job in getting me to support City and taking us to Maine Road. A lot of the older fans will likely call it quits now I’d imagine.

No way older fans will; call it a day. I'm 61, been going since 1970 and I'll carry on until physically impossible. Likewise a load of people i know. Around me at The Etihad on my row and in front I'd say over 90% have been there since the start including the Stuart Pearce no goals since Jan season.
City til we die.

[zuricity]

Would we really want to be in a ESL with numerous clubs who for one reason or another, have fucked us over? Some repeatedly.

Or stick with a league that’s accusing us of 100+ crimes where at least 9 clubs are lobbying to get us expelled from the league.

The likes of Barca and Real need us, the hateful 8/9 don’t realise they do.

would be good to repeatedly smash the fuck out of them week after week..... just to rub it in... then fuck off at the end of another record breaking season and form a super league

I hate these cunts trying to discredit my team
It will all come out in the wash - I love City's response which is basically "bring it on.. you got nothing"
Guys - keep the faith, don't talk of leaving - could you really???

It’s drawn me closer to City to be fair. But older fans I can see calling it a day. My dads for example has seen City win everything he wants. He’s been through the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. He’s done his job in getting me to support City and taking us to Maine Road. A lot of the older fans will likely call it quits now I’d imagine.

I might be considered an old City fan. No way would i give up on City. Secondly, because I am old, i can tell you i am sick to the back teeth of the corruption in the game. Spongers at the PL and FA screwing the beloved game up.

I want all of those who made this decision to charge City on 100 counts named and shamed. Even if i have to do it myself. American companies and owners are only interested in milking the PL. This has to stop. RAGS for example should be on the London Stock Exchange and not NYSE.

Because I am old, I have nothing to lose. OCU - Old Congers Unite ! or is that woke ?

[KinkyKinkladze]

I don't live in manc any more but I'm 40 and supported them my whole life. If I can sit through "and coming on to replace him is Barry conlon" and the entire north stand saying "who?" in unison, I can get through this. CTID.

[Mase]

Would we really want to be in a ESL with numerous clubs who for one reason or another, have fucked us over? Some repeatedly.

Or stick with a league that’s accusing us of 100+ crimes where at least 9 clubs are lobbying to get us expelled from the league.

The likes of Barca and Real need us, the hateful 8/9 don’t realise they do.

would be good to repeatedly smash the fuck out of them week after week..... just to rub it in... then fuck off at the end of another record breaking season and form a super league

I hate these cunts trying to discredit my team
It will all come out in the wash - I love City's response which is basically "bring it on.. you got nothing"
Guys - keep the faith, don't talk of leaving - could you really???

It’s drawn me closer to City to be fair. But older fans I can see calling it a day. My dads for example has seen City win everything he wants. He’s been through the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. He’s done his job in getting me to support City and taking us to Maine Road. A lot of the older fans will likely call it quits now I’d imagine.

No way older fans will; call it a day. I'm 61, been going since 1970 and I'll carry on until physically impossible. Likewise a load of people i know. Around me at The Etihad on my row and in front I'd say over 90% have been there since the start including the Stuart Pearce no goals since Jan season.
City til we die.

My dads touching 70, had a heart attack 2 years ago and has still gone to every match with his season ticket since. But for him there’s only so much he can take. If he pushes it any further it will literally be City till he dies.

I hope I’m wrong and everyone sticks with us.

[PeterParker]

I don't think the love for City can't change and will ever change.

What changed, at least for me, was the love for the game. I am close to despise it because of the corruption fulled by the media.
I've rarely watch any games except us. I've forgot the last time I've seen MOTD.
I never missed that.

[BlueinBosnia]

It’s drawn me closer to City to be fair. But older fans I can see calling it a day. My dads for example has seen City win everything he wants. He’s been through the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. He’s done his job in getting me to support City and taking us to Maine Road. A lot of the older fans will likely call it quits now I’d imagine.

No way older fans will; call it a day. I'm 61, been going since 1970 and I'll carry on until physically impossible. Likewise a load of people i know. Around me at The Etihad on my row and in front I'd say over 90% have been there since the start including the Stuart Pearce no goals since Jan season.
City til we die.

Plus, the original idea of the Super League envisaged mid-week fixtures. That's a hell of a lot of late nights for people who start work early, and families with schoolkids. It would be pensioners, uni students and people who've been flown over on a charter flight from China/Singapore/Norway who'd make up the bulk of the crowd. I'd also imagine there'd be far fewer season tickets available, unless they're bulk-bought by resellers.

[MIAMCFC]

I don't think the love for City can change and will ever change.

What changed, at least for me, was the love for the game. I am close to despise it because of the corruption fulled by the media.
I've rarely watch any games except us. I've forgot the last time I've seen MOTD.
I never missed that.

I met an Arsenal fan yesterday. Former accountant of a rival to Dolite, He said it’s bullying tactics by his club and the rest. City are far to smart and will have seen it coming.I hope is right. And we act like the monster we are in business terms. Once and for all the club have said. I would like Khaldoon to speak to us if I’m honest.