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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:29 pm

I see the FA are acting with their usual tardiness. No doubt his first game back will the December's Derby.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby kinkylola » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:59 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I see the FA are acting with their usual tardiness. No doubt his first game back will the December's Derby.


seriously ... the fucking script has been written. If this happens there needs to be a formal complaint made.

From this point out, doesn't any team simply have to say they do not feel comfortable being officiated by Clattenberg because they have black players and he has a bias? It's one thing for everyone to know you're bent, but as long as you keep it within the rules of the game no one can do anything. Now there are documents being generated which acknowledge a potential for bias, how can he continue?
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:07 am

kinkylola wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I see the FA are acting with their usual tardiness. No doubt his first game back will the December's Derby.


seriously ... the fucking script has been written. If this happens there needs to be a formal complaint made.

From this point out, doesn't any team simply have to say they do not feel comfortable being officiated by Clattenberg because they have black players and he has a bias? It's one thing for everyone to know you're bent, but as long as you keep it within the rules of the game no one can do anything. Now there are documents being generated which acknowledge a potential for bias, how can he continue?


Apparently the noises coming out of Chelsea are that they may have been mistaken in what they thought Clattenburg said. Time will tell....
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Lev Bronstein » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:05 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
kinkylola wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I see the FA are acting with their usual tardiness. No doubt his first game back will the December's Derby.


seriously ... the fucking script has been written. If this happens there needs to be a formal complaint made.

From this point out, doesn't any team simply have to say they do not feel comfortable being officiated by Clattenberg because they have black players and he has a bias? It's one thing for everyone to know you're bent, but as long as you keep it within the rules of the game no one can do anything. Now there are documents being generated which acknowledge a potential for bias, how can he continue?


Apparently the noises coming out of Chelsea are that they may have been mistaken in what they thought Clattenburg said. Time will tell....


So it's all going to end in confusion about who said what. What a surprise
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Dronny » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:27 am

Lev Bronstein wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
kinkylola wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I see the FA are acting with their usual tardiness. No doubt his first game back will the December's Derby.


seriously ... the fucking script has been written. If this happens there needs to be a formal complaint made.

From this point out, doesn't any team simply have to say they do not feel comfortable being officiated by Clattenberg because they have black players and he has a bias? It's one thing for everyone to know you're bent, but as long as you keep it within the rules of the game no one can do anything. Now there are documents being generated which acknowledge a potential for bias, how can he continue?


Apparently the noises coming out of Chelsea are that they may have been mistaken in what they thought Clattenburg said. Time will tell....


So it's all going to end in confusion about who said what. What a surprise


Like all I dislike the geordie wanker intensely, if the chavs have "misheard" at very best or fabricated the accusations they ought to face the music, likewise if he is innocent I do feel for the balding, cheating twat as that kind of stigma may never leave him
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:35 am

His performances when doing us, had got to the point of not being funny, WBA the last time he had us, IMHO he was taking the piss and loving every minute of it, missing the Lukaku HANDBALL, No he chose to ignore it with a smug look. Never slagged a ref before, this fella was on a mission of me me and MUFC.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Dameerto » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:35 am

My own theory is Clattenburg called Mickel by his surname, and the guy who doesn't speak very good English mistook it for the word they've accused him of using (monkey).
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:25 am

Dameerto wrote:My own theory is Clattenburg called Mickel by his surname, and the guy who doesn't speak very good English mistook it for the word they've accused him of using (monkey).


Probably called him Mickey but it came out sounding like 'Minky' as he probably speaks like Clouseau as well as reffing like him.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:39 am

He is a bad dick but I'd feel sorry for anyone falsely (and publicly) accused of racism. That's beyond the pale.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:29 am

Wonder if bacon had prepared him for all this.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Original Dub » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:07 pm

Rag_hater wrote:Wonder if bacon had prepared him for all this.


Eh?
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:20 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Wonder if bacon had prepared him for all this.


Eh?



Well according to some refs will do anything to get a game at the swamp so it would appear that clattercunt has only done stuff to get bacon happy with him.It seems that he has fucked up his career to be in bacons good books.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:23 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Well according to some refs will do anything to get a game at the swamp so it would appear that clattercunt has only done stuff to get bacon happy with him.It seems that he has fucked up his career to be in bacons good books.


I still don't get what you mean.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:30 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Well according to some refs will do anything to get a game at the swamp so it would appear that clattercunt has only done stuff to get bacon happy with him.It seems that he has fucked up his career to be in bacons good books.


Which manager benefitted from his either, cheating or comical ineptitude, depending on your stance, that night?
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby sweenyuk » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:34 pm

This is a complete mess. If Clattenburg is guilty there is a real issue about games he has officiated at already, if he is innocent then we have real problems with Chelsea to deal with and a situation where in future genuine incidents will go unreported due to fear of being accused of copying their hatred.

The FA need to come down hard on the guilty party and throw them out of the game. Short bans will not suffice. They then need to deal with the clear cheating that is happening in the game. Certain clubs that intimidate officials need to be dealt with, officials who favour certain teams need to be out of the game
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:57 pm

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Well according to some refs will do anything to get a game at the swamp so it would appear that clattercunt has only done stuff to get bacon happy with him.It seems that he has fucked up his career to be in bacons good books.


Which manager benefitted from his either, cheating or comical ineptitude, depending on your stance, that night?


I dont give a fuck what happend to them but seeing as you made the point about which manager benefitting from cluttercunts cheating or comical ineptitude,I think our Bobby might have been quite happy as it left us as the only unbeaten side,closed the gap to one of our main rivals.
So although the paras think clattercunts deeds fucked us up they didn't really.Probably not cool not to hate all refs but hey ho.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:10 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
I dont give a fuck what happend to them but seeing as you made the point about which manager benefitting from cluttercunts cheating or comical ineptitude,I think our Bobby might have been quite happy as it left us as the only unbeaten side,closed the gap to one of our main rivals.
So although the paras think clattercunts deeds fucked us up they didn't really.Probably not cool not to hate all refs but hey ho.


Not cool to be the opposite of everyone, everytime.

If you think for one second any of us or city wanted a united win down there, you're deluded.
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Feed The Goat » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:38 pm

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Not cool to be the opposite of everyone, everytime.

If you think for one second any of us or city wanted a united win down there, you're deluded.


I wanted them to get a point
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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Lev Bronstein » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:49 pm

sweenyuk wrote:This is a complete mess. If Clattenburg is guilty there is a real issue about games he has officiated at already, if he is innocent then we have real problems with Chelsea to deal with and a situation where in future genuine incidents will go unreported due to fear of being accused of copying their hatred.

The FA need to come down hard on the guilty party and throw them out of the game. Short bans will not suffice. They then need to deal with the clear cheating that is happening in the game. Certain clubs that intimidate officials need to be dealt with, officials who favour certain teams need to be out of the game



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Re: Chelsea Accuse Mark Clattenburg Of Racism

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:15 pm

sweenyuk wrote:This is a complete mess. If Clattenburg is guilty there is a real issue about games he has officiated at already, if he is innocent then we have real problems with Chelsea to deal with and a situation where in future genuine incidents will go unreported due to fear of being accused of copying their hatred.

The FA need to come down hard on the guilty party and throw them out of the game. Short bans will not suffice. They then need to deal with the clear cheating that is happening in the game. Certain clubs that intimidate officials need to be dealt with, officials who favour certain teams need to be out of the game


See I strongly disagree with the first statement you make there. Let me say, before I go on that I dont believe for a second he has said what he is accused to have done. However I feel it is possible to make comments that are derogatory to a player, perhaps even in a racist sense, but in no way does it mean that the person is racist, nor does it signal that this comment potentially shows he made decisions based on a dislike of a certain race or ethnicity.

Its a ridiculous statement to make to consider that he gave decisions against black players, yet I have seen this line trotted out in the media.

But, bring up the potential issue of him being biased in favour of one particular club, and not a fucking peep in the media over the suspicious patterns of decision making exhibited by clattenburg and co in that, and other games.

So are we saying that an alleged racist comment is more worthy of acres of amazonian rainforest and endless speculation, and is a potential indicator of flawed decision making, yet the wider issue of his and other referees proclivity for frankly bizarre decisions both in favour of one club, and against their main rivals, is not even worthy of comment.

It shows how abbsolutely fucking ridiculous this witch hunt is, when we are getting all het up about a racist comment, when the wider issue being alleged is the guys decision making, yet no cunt says a word about the decision making that many observers have said has been suspect for many years.

So its not ok to be bent if its racist, but its ok to be bent if you arent, seems to be the message loud and clear from all this
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