Garry Cook [merged]

[mcfc1632]

Hughes was judged by league position / points in December 2009

Mancini will be judged by the same measure either end of this season, next December or end of next season

Cook should be judged by business results at appropriate points in each season in line with (probably) a 4 year business plan

His key role is to manage business growth and club expansion

In a business of our (intended) size, the standard press officer should report to the senior press officer who might report direct to Cook, in the same way that the catering manager will report somewhere up the line short of cook.

What I want from Cook is major sponsorships, improved stadium, and most of all a Profit & Loss / Balance Sheet that demonstrates ourselves as a sustainable business entity without continuous capital injections by 2013 - ideally before. (Of course I would like an end to gaffes as well) - What I do not want is a Scum or scouse situation or even a Chelski one.

This is (IMO) what all CITY fans should want of him and any disruption to momentum in implementing such a business plan could / would have far greater ramifications than a change of manager (IMO) - fans should be careful not to get sucked in by the media that only the shallow and gutter stuff at the level they operate is important

[Beefymcfc]

Hughes was judged by league position / points in December 2009

Mancini will be judged by the same measure either end of this season, next December or end of next season

Cook should be judged by business results at appropriate points in each season in line with (probably) a 4 year business plan

His key role is to manage business growth and club expansion

In a business of our (intended) size, the standard press officer should report to the senior press officer who might report direct to Cook, in the same way that the catering manager will report somewhere up the line short of cook.

What I want from Cook is major sponsorships, improved stadium, and most of all a Profit & Loss / Balance Sheet that demonstrates ourselves as a sustainable business entity without continuous capital injections by 2013 - ideally before. (Of course I would like an end to gaffes as well) - What I do not want is a Scum or scouse situation or even a Chelski one.

This is (IMO) what all CITY fans should want of him and any disruption to momentum in implementing such a business plan could / would have far greater ramifications than a change of manager (IMO) - fans should be careful not to get sucked in by the media that only the shallow and gutter stuff at the level they operate is important

Errrr, I might be pissed, but is this why we are selling tickets until the end of Jan and got near sell out crowds for most occassions?

[mcfc1632]

Hughes was judged by league position / points in December 2009

Mancini will be judged by the same measure either end of this season, next December or end of next season

Cook should be judged by business results at appropriate points in each season in line with (probably) a 4 year business plan

His key role is to manage business growth and club expansion

In a business of our (intended) size, the standard press officer should report to the senior press officer who might report direct to Cook, in the same way that the catering manager will report somewhere up the line short of cook.

What I want from Cook is major sponsorships, improved stadium, and most of all a Profit & Loss / Balance Sheet that demonstrates ourselves as a sustainable business entity without continuous capital injections by 2013 - ideally before. (Of course I would like an end to gaffes as well) - What I do not want is a Scum or scouse situation or even a Chelski one.

This is (IMO) what all CITY fans should want of him and any disruption to momentum in implementing such a business plan could / would have far greater ramifications than a change of manager (IMO) - fans should be careful not to get sucked in by the media that only the shallow and gutter stuff at the level they operate is important

Errrr, I might be pissed, but is this why we are selling tickets until the end of Jan and got near sell out crowds for most occassions?

Thinks it must be the drink Beefy - did you think I was criticising Cook?

[Chinners]

The reason why the press, and others high up in footballing circles, hate Gary Cook is exactly the reason why we as fans should appreciate what Cook has done for the club.

He breaks the mould in that he would rather socialise with the fans of the club than have luncheons with the press, and this worries people not least Chief Execs of other football clubs who still see the fans as customers rather than friends.

I could harp on about all the times that I have met Gary and to a point socialised with him, although I wouldn,t go so far to call him a mate, I would definately call him a friend. Got closer to Gary in one season than I ever did to Alistair Mackintosh in all the time he was there. And with the arrival of the new owners came the breaking down of other barriers. I kind of label Gary as an exciteable school kid, he is as excited by what is happening at our club as we are, and although he may well be a Birmingham City fan his loyalties are without doubt fully behind the club. Some of the stuff he came out with regarding the Tevez poster was pure class.

You've only got to look at his walkabouts with fans during last seasons Uefa cup run, and buying of drinks etc, the handling of the fans during the South Africa Tour, and the 5 Star BBQ that was laid on for the fans in Abu Dhabi. How many other clubs Chief Execs would go to such lengths, and how much did you see written in thed press about it, practically bugger all. It was the same during the Banana craze following the fancy dress day at Stoke, there was bugger all in the press about that. You see the press don't like good things happening with the fans in football. Because they believe they have carte blanche to all things good, and they see themselves as vastly superior to football fans, especially working class football fans.

Personally think that he handled the Kaka and Eto deals reasonably well from what I have gleemed since, it was his way of saying we aren't going to be fucked around and believe me people were trying to fuck us about. OK he's made a couple of gaffs, again it was just his little joke that wasn't quite as appropriate as he thought, but we've all made hundreds of those in our life time. Haven't we?

I would just urge people not to make too hasty a judgement on Gary in light of recent events. I try not to judge people without having met them but I appreciate that in the current climate of open media this is difficult. He really is fully behind the best interests of the club.

Keep the faith Blues.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to one and all.

Kippax.

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I tell you what Kippax, it takes alot to sway my opinion on alot of things . . . you've just done it!

Top fella and Happy Easter to you.

[john68]

Kippax,
I was not posting about our ambitions on the pitch, that is a completely seperate issue and one that is affected by Mancini's performance and not Cook's. My only point was that how the Manchester City brand is seen throughout the World from a marketting aspect.
Our owners are actively seeking success in both spheres.

Personally it matters very little how the rest of the world see us..it is important to our Sheiks.

You can't have it both ways John. Either he's too corporate or he's not polished enough. In my mind, he's doing an average job in a role that he's still learning -- a lot like Hughes. He may not have the football background many would like, but he's a marketeer, and if the board thinks, like Hughes, he shouldn't be given the range to learn his new job on their dime with our brand then he'll be sacked as well.

I for one don't have the issues others do with Cook. In fact, i think Milan did bottle it just for the record.

cheers

I'm not trying to have it any way Doomie, nor am I criticising him. He is obviously a talented guy in what he does but I don't think that he is very good in the public arena. That is not a fault, there are many very talented people who are very successful, but not in a public way.
Our society has changed dramatically. The sound bite rules and we accept the photogenic more easily.
It is not the big issue that it is becoming on here Mate. Just that someone who has better public communication skills would be better to interact with the press. I gave Khaldoon and Sven as good examples as opposed to Benitez.

[shawzy]

It has been mentioned in past threads.Do you think Peter Kenyon would fit the role better?
TBH I like the bloke and think he would.
Will read back the thread tmoz off to the zzzzzzzzzzz pitt night brothers

[john68]

Persanally, I would hate Peter Kenyon anywhere near City in any role other than programme seller...outside the ground...naked...in a snowstorm.
For me, he will always be remembered as they guy who negotiated the then G8 blackmailing of UeFA to get the CL rules changed to suit the fat wallets at the swamp.

[CitizenYank]

The World Headquarters for Nike is in my hometown and there was a reason he was let go.
People I know who worked said he made the working environment a living hell.

His tenure here doesn't surprise me one bit.

[King Kev]

Persanally, I would hate Peter Kenyon anywhere near City in any role other than programme seller...outside the ground...naked...in a snowstorm.

Should this have been posted in [urlnp=http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=28768]THIS[/urlnp] thread?

[Ted Hughes]

The point is that Cook didn't lie about the timeframe re Mancini. He just was so fucking useless explaining what happened & then refused to take questions & then handed the whole bucket of shit to a bloke who barely speaks English THEN had to answer questions anyway because it appeared Mancini had contradicted him.

It's not good enough pure & simple.

I don't give a shit what the press think but the owners bought the club to be a PR assett. It's not. Players have turned us down in the past because we're not percieved to be a top club. This kind of amateurish crap reinforces it.

I don't care if he's like God on Earth when it comes to running the club & Mother Teresa dealing with fans, he turns into Donald Rumsfeld as soon as someone puts a microphone in front of him.

[Blue2]

TBH, even though I wanted rid of Hughes, this episode has been a PR cock up by Cook. Cant say that the guy impresses much.

[Chinners]

12 questions for Garry Cook Bollox

THE row over the bungled sacking of Mark Hughes by Manchester City on Saturday made headlines for all the wrong reasons.

City fans have voiced criticism about the way things were handled, particularly by chief executive Garry Cook.

This website has had a record response to Hughes' axing with well over a thousand comments from around the world.

In a vote of almost 5,000 supporters, opinions over whether the sacking was justified are split with just under 60 per cent saying it wasn't. So it is clear it is not the actual dismissal that is at issue, it is the way the club's image has been tarnished by the way it was carried out.

Here M.E.N. sports editor Peter Spencer asks the 12 questions he sincerely hopes Mr Cook will answer ASAP in an effort to help clear up the row that has gripped the football world. These questions were sent to Mr Cook on Monday night.

1: WHY did you attend the press conference when it was obvious your very presence would take the emphasis away from what could be described as an interesting appointment and certainly one that was highly newsworthy considering Mancini had barely been mentioned in speculation surrounding Hughes' future?

2: WHY was there such an emphasis on the loyalty Sheikh Mansour was going to show to Hughes and his backroom team? This was virtually every day reiterated by your increasing number of PR people. The media, including ourselves, believed this and the view was reflected in our reporting of club affairs so is it any wonder ourselves and therefore the club's supporters feel deceived?

3: ON reflection do you think the whole issue of the change in manager could have been handled better? You have been in this job long enough to know there are absolutely no secrets in football.

4: WHY did you delay the announcement until Saturday, making Hughes look foolish and many in the crowd bemused as word got round during the game against Sunderland?

5: WHAT exactly is the target in terms of points, position in the Premier League, silverware? Mancini has said HIS target is a top-four place but what would satisfy the owners particularly as Hughes believes he was achieving the target he had been set. Has the bar been raised?

6: IF Mancini doesn't do as well as Hughes - and his appointment is a huge gamble as he has never worked as a manager in this country - will he go at the end of the season? Is he really a stop-gap until there is a better chance of landing Mourinho?

7: ON reflection was it a mistake to sell Richard Dunne to aspiring rivals Villa? I accept hindsight is a great thing but his replacements have hardly been on top of their game and, while I'm on this, how close were City - truthfully - to signing John Terry?

8: IS it fair to say the scouting and assessment of possible big-money so-called superstar targets needs reviewing? I ask this because Robinho, Lescott, Toure, Adebayor and Bridge to name but five have not performed to the standard the majority of supporters expected.

9: WHY did City sign Robinho for a British record fee and was Hughes entirely in agreement? Is he going to be sold to Barcelona when the transfer window opens next week?

10: IT is obvious City need to sign a centre half next month but what else can be expected in terms of team strengthening? How much has Mancini got to spend and do you think the uncomfortable events over the last few days will hinder City's chances of landing reinforcements?

11: YOU want City to be a brand as well as a football club don't you? Well that brand is tarnished now so what can you do about it?

12: AND finally, the relationship that you have done so well to develop with the most important people of all, ie the fans, is now strained. What are you going to do to address this?

[The Original Special One]

I can't figure out how Cook made it so big in the States has he's put his foot in his mouth so often you'd wonde how he could have any teef left.
First the Kaka, then the Dunney fiasco, now this.

And he was signed up on the basis of his standing in the marketing world
Does anybody know what big marketing deals we've secured, or how many Micah Richards t-shirts have we sold in China?

Surely the owners must be looking to replace this guy soon, before he irreparably damages the club's profile?

[BJTOUSERB]

Its his job to be hated by everyone else, apart from us fans, he is the guy paid to do the dirty work, to do the will of the chairman. He acts dumb but didnt get to this position, or his former role within Nike by being dumb, he is a clever guy. Yes he may have said that Hughes' job was safe, but once the call came in from the boss everything changed, that doesnt make Cook two faced or sneeky.Lets not forget, it was him who played a HUGE role in presenting the proposition of City to the new owners. We owe Gary quite a lot more than people think. People say "he is making us a laughing stock" I say that he has made us one of the most high profile clubs around, its not just the money, its the things like "Welcome to Manchester" that has created this. And lets not forget how much 'closer' to us fans the club feels these days, the working on fans feedback, who do you think is ultimately responsible for this? Everyone hated (hates) Peter Kenyon, but at the end of the day these guys were put there to do a job, and Cook for one I feel is doing a great job! Yes he makes the odd public mistake, but that's the City way ;-)


thats just my view, what does anyone esle think?

1think you right, he as done what need to be done,probable didn't like it but somebody had to do it.

[colonel_muck]

garry cook does the little behind the scenes things very well and he has improved the infastructure of the club immensely, but as a public face for representing manchester city he is an absolute joke. twice in as many years he has made our club a laughing stock after calling ac milan 'bottlers' over the kaka deal and now alienating the press (who weren't exactly being kind to us anyway, but its going to get worse) and now this.

[john68]

THAT PIECE OF SHITE IN THE MuEN DISGUSTS ME.
Though I do think it contains some relevent questions, I really don't believe that they give a fuck about the answers. They have dug up every bity of negativity they can find to attack Cook and target our club.
My inner feelings tell me that whatever Cook may or may not have done..it is time to corcle the wagons and get behind him in defence of our club.

I do not think it is any coincidence that our local paper is battering City and putting our club's good name under siege when there is a much bigger story they could and should be investigating...but are totally ignoring.....The state of affairs at the swamp.
I think they are targetting us in order to ease the pressure on the rags.

DISGUSTING...AND NOT THE 1ST TIME THIS PAPER HAS ATTACKED US TO SHIELD THE RAGS.

[Chinners]

It's not called the MUEN for nothing fella

[bluej]

Half of those questions from the MEN have f**k all to do with Garry Cook. As has been mentioned its just another attack on ourselves by trying to play 'the concerned local paper' slant.

[Burt]

THAT PIECE OF SHITE IN THE MuEN DISGUSTS ME.
Though I do think it contains some relevent questions, I really don't believe that they give a fuck about the answers. They have dug up every bity of negativity they can find to attack Cook and target our club.
My inner feelings tell me that whatever Cook may or may not have done..it is time to corcle the wagons and get behind him in defence of our club.

I do not think it is any coincidence that our local paper is battering City and putting our club's good name under siege when there is a much bigger story they could and should be investigating...but are totally ignoring.....The state of affairs at the swamp.
I think they are targetting us in order to ease the pressure on the rags.

DISGUSTING...AND NOT THE 1ST TIME THIS PAPER HAS ATTACKED US TO SHIELD THE RAGS.

I'm all for helping if you can explain the strategy of how we "corcle" the wagons mate;o)

[Socrates]

THAT PIECE OF SHITE IN THE MuEN DISGUSTS ME.
Though I do think it contains some relevent questions, I really don't believe that they give a fuck about the answers. They have dug up every bity of negativity they can find to attack Cook and target our club.
My inner feelings tell me that whatever Cook may or may not have done..it is time to corcle the wagons and get behind him in defence of our club.

I do not think it is any coincidence that our local paper is battering City and putting our club's good name under siege when there is a much bigger story they could and should be investigating...but are totally ignoring.....The state of affairs at the swamp.
I think they are targetting us in order to ease the pressure on the rags.

DISGUSTING...AND NOT THE 1ST TIME THIS PAPER HAS ATTACKED US TO SHIELD THE RAGS.

Agree about that piece. Do they honestly expect them to answer questions involving targets and strategy? Or to say whether they plan to change managers again??? As for question 8 well. Why did we sign Robinho for a record fee - BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE COST YOU STUPID MUNCHENMUPPETS!!