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Re: German National Goalkeeper dies.

Postby dazlebluefrog » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:17 pm

edge275 wrote:It's a shame, but this shit happens day in day out.


do you mean suicides?or getting knocked down by a train ?for the later,here in france i was told a couple of years back by a SNCF boss that there is over ONE "accident "a day somewhere in france ,not just jumping in front of a train but people who try to get across a level crossing while the barriers are down ,in a car,bike ,motobike etc etc ,in the 10 years working on the trains i was on one that had an "accident " between 10&20 times plus a hell of a lot more that were delayed because of an "accident"
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Re: German National Goalkeeper dies.

Postby miss-mancity » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:32 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Slim wrote:
Blue Toy wrote:The guy obviously had huge issues, but it's a selfish way to do it. The driver of that train has to live with it (presuming he wasn't killed) and there could have been other casualties on the train.

RIP all the same.


We all know someone who had to go through the very thing, what a selfish thing to do. I feel for his family but he has very little sympathy from me for this.


I agree with both of you. bit of a twat in my eyes leaving his wife and adopted child behind :(


People willing to commit suicide are usually very sick and clearly not capable of thinking in a selfless fashion. It's easy to criticize because on the surface it's selfish, and hurtful. I would imagine that the pain they feel inside somehow overshadows everything else. I lost a friend to suicide 2 years ago this Thanksgiving, and while i do think he's a fucking prick for taking his own life i also often wonder what i could have done. I wish i could have understood, and really heard something that made me engage him...those thoughts can consume you because many times people do an okay job of hiding the extremity of their pain or strife. Sad, sad stuff...I just wish i could have found a way to make a difference because he was just a really really fantastic and funny guy the likes of which you rarely meet. And then ...poof. Dead by his own hand.

RIP Mr. German Keeper...i hope you shall arrive home soon.


I so agree...Have lost 4 friend/fam. by theirs own hands in the last 10 year...

Im shocked... R.I.P Enke! :,,(
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Re: German National Goalkeeper dies.

Postby ant london » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:26 pm

very sad, amazing turnout from the German public though

Big respect. Also respect to the German FA for calling off the friendly scheduled against Chile. Can't see our own avaricious mob doing that

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Re: German National Goalkeeper dies.

Postby ant london » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:52 am

Speaking to Robert Enke

Wednesday 11 November 2009 12:00

Andy Mitten on the late Germany goalkeeper Robert Enke, who was due to be interviewed for FourFourTwo after Wolfsburg vs Manchester United next month...

I’ve just arrived at Camp Nou for a game whose importance is reflected by the size of the crowd.

It’s 10pm and maybe 20,000 are inside the ground for a cup game against third-level Cultural Leonesa; Barça are already 2-0 up from the first leg.

I don’t have to file any copy tonight, so I was going to watch some of the emerging Barça stars closely.

Then I switch on my computer in the press box and read that the German goalkeeper Robert Enke has died.

I was going to interview Enke in Hanover on December 9, the morning after Wolfsburg vs Manchester United.

My mate, the German writer Ronald Reng, is a good friend of Enke and has spoken exceptionally well of him for years.

With United playing close by, Reng fixed it up for me to interview Enke for FourFourTwo. Only this morning, he emailed to say that he’d just spoken to Enke’s wife.

Reng recently emailed me the following piece to ask if I could read through it.

While his English is very good, writing in another language isn’t easy and he wanted me to give it the once-over.

This is a far better synopsis of Enke than anything I could write. I’ll leave it how it was sent.
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Interview with Germany goalkeeper Robert Enke, who had to overcome unemployment and the death of his daughter to become Germany’s No.1.

By Ronald Reng

At the end of our interview, Robert Enke offers to drive me down to the commuter train station at Neustadt.

He knows the timetable by heart, as he regularly takes the local train from the small village where he lives to Hanover, even now that he is Germany’s No.1 goalkeeper. “The connections are good and fast”, he simply states.

If anyone needed any proof that Enke – who will play for Germany in the World Cup qualifier against Azerbaijan this Wednesday – is special, it would be the image of one of the country’s brightest stars sitting between the locals on a commuter train.

But of his whole life is proof that he is in many ways a unique goalkeeper.

Having captained Benfica at 23, he turned down offers from Manchester United and Roma to join FC Barcelona.

He didn't make it there and when Barça sent him to Istanbul two years later, he refused to play for Fenerbahce.

“I just felt totally out of place in Turkey with the exaggerated passion of the fans and the club," he says. "I felt absolutely lonely and deeply sad.”

Instead, he chose to be unemployed.

After half a year out of work, he was only offered a job in Spain’s Second Division, at Tenerife.

That’s the way many prosperous talents disappear – into mediocrity. But in no man’s land, Enke’s career restarted.

From Tenerife he worked his way up again. At Hanover, forever a midtable Bundesliga club, he managed at the late age of 31 to become the No.1 of three-times World Cup winners Germany.

“I suppose it has to be my destiny that everything in my career has to be weird,” he says. “Just sometimes, I wished it would have been a tiny bit easier.”

When he says that, while driving me to the station, I instinctively look down to the car keys in the ignition. On the key-ring fob there is a picture of his daughter Lara.

She was born with a cardiac defect. She spent her first six months in intensive care.

Enke lived between the training pitch and the hospital. There are images you do not forget: “Lara, my wife and I sitting in the deserted hospital canteen on Christmas Eve, eating salmon with potatoes.”

On three occasions, Lara survived life-threatening surgery. On September 17 2006, just after her second birthday, she died after what should have been straightforward ear surgery.

He has never spoken publicly about her death, but he says he likes to talk about her with friends, with people who got to know her.

“Remember the photos of her we looked at yesterday? In every second picture, she was smiling. She was such a happy and brave girl.”

She has taught him something he will not forget: “I don’t want to minimise football; the sport is very important to me and I am very ambitious. But in the end, it's always just football.

Many fans and media in Germany say he is too polite, too softly-spoken. What they really mean is that he lacks character. They confuse a big mouth with charisma.

Germany has always regarded itself as the land of goalkeepers; since the 1970s and the great Sepp Maier, the national team has always been protected by world-class, strong-minded, not to say crazy goalkeepers.

There were the 1980s with Rambo in the cinema and Harald Schumacher in the Germany goal, who kept on chewing his chewing-gum after he kung-fu kicked France’s Battiston half to death in the World Cup semi-final 1982.

Then came the 1990s with Oliver 'Gorilla' Kahn and finally a new century with 'Mad Jens' Lehmann.

In front of this gallery of ancestral portraits now stands Robert Enke. He is as good as any German goalkeeper has ever been, with lightning reflexes and a strong control of the penalty area. He just refuses to give up his sensibility.

“I will never try to psych out or speak badly about one of my rivals for the No.1 spot. I know what respect is.”
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Re: German National Goalkeeper dies.

Postby Knappe » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:34 am

and so he´s leaving the stadium with his team-mates for the last time

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Re: German National Goalkeeper dies.

Postby AlanBallsHat » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:51 am

Terrible..... so sad. Been in that spot staring at the abyss myself only to drag myself back with thoughts of others I cannot hurt.

Peace to you. Nothing can hurt you anymore.
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Re: German National Goalkeeper dies.

Postby zuricity » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:52 am

It's a very sad story.

I watched some of the Trauerfeier, the wake/ceremony, in the stadium yesterday live on tv. It was quite overwhelming how
many people , not just fans , but members and ex members of the Bundesliga came to pay their respects.

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